Return of Christ

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Not at all.

I 'take action' all the time.

I try to bring people up, not tear them down.

I feed some homeless and shut in people in my area.

It's all we can do - better ourselves and take care of those around us.

Obviously - there's nothing more we can do as 'one' then that.

As a 'group' sure, we can do more. But I don't see the whole of the world uniting to save the world - unless it's the NWO who wants us under their thumb, and that aint good at all.

originally posted by: ClovenSky
a reply to: silo13

Now you are just teasing people, everyone of the chosen tribe will also experience the rapture and leave this material world?

I'm not 'teasing' anyone at all. Unlike our media and advertising that 'teases' the masses into believing if you just act this way, buy this thing, live your life a certain way - you'll find nirvana here on earth. It's not going to happen. Or maybe you can point out to me someone who is perfectly happy? Perfectly content?

[quote[Man I can see it now. This vision is getting better and better. Maybe we could actually try a world without religion. Where people take full responsibility for their own actions and destiny. Where they aren't afraid of all the made up sins and controlling BS, but finally realize they are free to live their life.

What would make you think following Christ is not taking responsibility for your actions?
And tell me one person who's lived their destiny after death.
No one, but Christ.
We do take responsibility for our own actions, as Christians.
We also know we cannot save ourselves.
Take action, believe in Him, get some strength on your side to change and be better.
Nothing wrong with that.

People start respecting one another because they realize that is the only way to free will and self determination, that everyone needs to respect the free will of others. Without that, we are no better off than we were before the rapture. Mankind can finally discover and explore their true spirituality without it being corrupted by organizations that want to control and profit off of the ignorance of others.

Ohhh I see, you're speaking of 'religion'. I'm not.

Paradise. Win win for everyone. [/quote[
No, it's not a 'win win' for everyone.
You have the CHOICE to reject what is offered or embrace it.
Those who don't embrace it?
Well, they'll find out, sadly.

[quote[Those who don't enjoy free will and self sufficiency will also be in their happy place, in heaven, free from original thought and action.

You're talking apples and kiwis here.
We ALL have free will.
If you want to believe you can 'do it on your own' - you have the free will to try.
As for me? I know I cannot. I am too impatient, too quick to anger, too quick to pettiness and jealousy and all the other 'sin' traits I've only been able to put behind me by the power of the Holy Spirit.
If you can do it on your own - fine - you might just succeed - but you still can't give yourself everlasting life.
Jesus will.

No more entropy for them or discord as they prance through the fields of monotony and stagnation.

Because of Christ I have no more monotony and stagnation.

Where nothing changes and everything is fully predictable.

Ohhhh one of the beauties of being a child of Christ - not only is nothing predictable, but when something hits you up side the head that isn't? You've got the way and means and strength to get through it.

I wonder if the people that stayed on this wonderful material realm will allow the religious back into our reality once they bore of the never changing? Maybe we will charge for simple viewing rights but never allow participation again.

I have no clue what you're talking about.
Without Christ - yeah, my 'every day' would be a drudgery, monotony, unbearable at times. With Him? You've got to be kidding me! I open myself up to others and on a daily basis get to see wonders that I could never have seen or experienced before.

I realize it's hard to understand, if you've not lived it.

I've been on teh side of 'not living it' - and for me? Yeah, that was awful.

On the side of believing? When assured of everlasting life?

Nothing is 'boring' anymore, nothing is 'senseless'...

It's not always a bed a roses and I still fail and fear and get upset, and doubt, but He's always right there to pick me up.

Doesn't mean I don't have to do it, step out and DO IT - but - I'm not alone in the trials anymore.

a reply to: StrangeCottageCheese

Can you prove that your "creator" and his "son" are exactly who they say they are? That they actually exist? Who else, objectively, can you consult about this as a reliable witness? Why is this witness reliable?

I actually feel the proof is in the conscience I was born with, the laws written in my heart came from somewhere and strangely match what the creator lists.
it is enough for me that so much matches up with prophecy and ancient texts. I would suggest the lifelong study of the matter secretly by Issac Newton if anyone is interested.

a reply to: darkuniverse
Just be careful friend, not all will love you.

And I am very excited! I know I will be going to heaven.

Buddhism has a contrary belief. If we are driven by our ego to attain something of importance for ourself the gate remains shut. It's only open to those that sacrifice everything for all others regardless of the cost to ourselves.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire
Jesus did say, that if you follow him, it will be a rough ride. People will mock you, laugh at you, hate you. They will prosacute you or even kill you. I am Baptist. I believe that once you are saved, you are always saved. You CAN NOT loose your salvation. Christ loved the sinners of the world (you,me, everyone) so much, he gave himself as a sacrifice to save mankind. I believe, once your saved and accept Christ as your lord and savior, no matter if you lived a sinful life, your still going to heaven. Christ died for all your sins, past, present and future. They are paid for. We can not save ourselves by good deeds or trying to be good. We were born into this world as a sinner, have filth on our flesh, and will die that way. But Christ’s blood covers it, he is the mediator for us to GOD.we can not ever be perfect like Christ.

a reply to: glend
(if we are only) If we are driven by our ego to attain something of importance for ourself the gate remains shut.

a reply to: darkuniverse

Signs of the second coming?

Here’s an ancient oral Jewish prophecy.

“Afterward, to put a stop to the flood, God had to transfer two stars from the constellation of the Bear to the constellation of the Pleiades. That is why the Bear runs after the Pleiades. She wants her two children back, but they will be restored to her only in the future world.”

www.sacred-texts.com...

Most fail to see that the second coming was actually his return to Jerusalem on the third day after his ordeal. Why is that hard to accept?!?

The basis for the second coming.

Acts 1:6-10

"Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”

He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven." "

a reply to: NerdGoddess

Does He or does He NOT forgive all His children? If I don't believe in his existence or doings, am I still one of His children? I assume God created all of us *IF HE IS REAL* so then wouldn't we all be forgiven if we ask for it? -Alee (I believe in higher powers I just don't believe in the catholic God)

Yes God does forgive those that are given to His Christ - but - all people are not given to Christ Jesus nor are all people God's children.

Matthew_13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

God created no man except Adam. All of mankind are pro created from the desires of their own hearts. Once you accept Christ Jesus, for what He is, you then belong to the family of God and become God's child. Not all that cry Lord, Lord will enter into the kingdom.

Matthew 7:21-24
(21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
(22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
(24) Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

You then become a child of God.

originally posted by: Seede
a reply to: NerdGoddess

Does He or does He NOT forgive all His children? If I don't believe in his existence or doings, am I still one of His children? I assume God created all of us *IF HE IS REAL* so then wouldn't we all be forgiven if we ask for it? -Alee (I believe in higher powers I just don't believe in the catholic God)

Yes God does forgive those that are given to His Christ - but - all people are not given to Christ Jesus nor are all people God's children.

Matthew_13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

God created no man except Adam. All of mankind are pro created from the desires of their own hearts. Once you accept Christ Jesus, for what He is, you then belong to the family of God and become God's child. Not all that cry Lord, Lord will enter into the kingdom.

Matthew 7:21-24
(21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
(22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
(24) Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

You then become a child of God.

Thank you for taking the time to explain that to me and thank you also to everyone else who replied.

-Alee

a reply to: Pinocchio

Because it isn't true.

Read Revelation.