Russian airliner crashes shortly after take off

Russian officials have denied the pilot reported a problem with the plane. They have published the passenger manifest, which included two teens and a child. All but three people on board were from the Orenburg region, which is where Orks is. The three that weren't included two from Moscow, and one from St. Petersburg. The pilot had 5,000 hours.

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Witnesses say there was an explosion under the wing. That seems to point to an uncontained engine failure causing flight control damage.

It appears the CFO of Rusatom Overseas, part of ROSATOM was one of the passengers....Uranium 1 comes to mind...



Passenger 32 Ivanov

originally posted by: 727Sky
a reply to: Woody510

Breaking up inflight with a fire does not sound like a normal engine failure.. I wonder if there was an explosive device ?

Key witnesses to Uranium 1 fiasco onboard?

Considering the reliability of Russian engines, even with someone that might have been involved in any Uranium One deal on board, it's far more likely that it was an engine problem than a bomb. You don't put bombs under the wing, which is where the witnesses said the explosion occurred.

a reply to: Zaphod58

With all due respect, i disregard your assessment of "engine failure/accident" and officially declare this an assassination.

But hey, thats just me.

a reply to: Urantia1111

So you declare it an assassination so everyone should believe it is? You have access to the wreckage, and already have evidence of it being an assassination?

a reply to: Zaphod58

Not exactly.

Lets call it a hunch.

No one is required to believe it with me.

a reply to: Urantia1111

How do you know it's him? Could be more than one person with that name?

a reply to: Woody510

just saw a story about a couple that was supposed to be on the plane ordered a new car which wasn't ready yet for another week so he had to spend some extra bucks to change tickets to a later flight...then the plane crashed...they are very glad to be alive

The Russian Transport Minister is in discussions with Rosaviatsiya and Rostransdandzor, the Air Transport Agency and transport watchdog, respectively. This may lead to the decision to suspend flights by An-148 aircraft.

tass.com...

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Why isn't Ulrich Klaeui in that list?

The name is first on the list that Saratov Airlines provided. It needs to be downloaded.

Edit- that name is not on the English list.

Webpage

originally posted by: Woody510
a reply to: Urantia1111

How do you know it's him? Could be more than one person with that name?

I dont but it would just make sense. Dems are on the run due to being exposed as cheats and may face some serious charges if proven true.

Thus, people must die.

Just tossing it out there is all.

Time will (might) tell.

a reply to: C84K2

Manifests change. The manifest given out by the airline may have been based on the tickets sold, while the other is from people that boarded. They tend to change when released. He may have bought a ticket, and for some reason didn't board, but a standby passenger did, so the same number of people that they sold tickets to boarded, but not the same people.

a reply to: Zaphod58

this is a tragedy and my heart goes out to the family's of all the victims.

question about the An-148. I noticed the seating arrangement is 3 & 2. the isle being offset to the port side. how does that effect CG. and how's it countered. literally with ballast? equipment shoved to one side?

a reply to: Woody510


My bet is it was a bomb.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

It actually doesn't affect it much. Several of the regional aircraft have configurations like that. They can put ballast in place, or they can put equipment more to the side with the two seats, but it doesn't have a huge effect to begin with. Not as much as it would appear to have.

a reply to: Salander

I think it's looking more likely that Zaph is right after reading the witness statements. It would be a weird place to put a bomb or even try to hide one.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
Considering the reliability of Russian engines, even with someone that might have been involved in any Uranium One deal on board, it's far more likely that it was an engine problem than a bomb. You don't put bombs under the wing, which is where the witnesses said the explosion occurred.

What witnesses? It was in flight and in control.

a reply to: Salander

All the way up to it materializing on the ground in pieces? They made it to 6,700 feet before the track on FR24 was lost. Are you telling me that people on the ground can't see planes flying at 6,000 feet?

a reply to: Zaphod58

Thank you