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originally posted by: roadgravel
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: kurthall
Well, I was really hoping it could go at least one page before devolving.
Hopes shattered.
Stay classy.
What is to be expected given someone is basically calling dibs on the thread.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
Do you really believe the FBI to be worthy of defense? Remove Trump and the rest of this affair from the equation and look at the remainder of the evidence against the FBI. The torching of women and children in Waco. The entrapment on mentally challenged people and calling them terrorists. Their complicit actions in the terror attack at the Dallas Mosque a couple years back. Ruby Ridge. Olympic Park Bomber, and the subsequent harassing literally to death of RIchard Jewell, an innocent man.
Yes. I do believe they are worth defending. It would be dishonest of me to say they have not had their share of incredibly horrible mistakes, including what they had a hand in in Waco, but the vast majority of what they are being accused of right now is complete conspiracy.
Ya, they found some biased nuts in their ranks. That does not mean they did not do their job according to the law and unbiased.
If we want to level charges at the FBI, let's bring real evidence of real wrongdoing and not take the smallest tidbits of information out of content for the sake of personal political narrative.
Then investigate it. Because the evidence suggests there is something far deeper than a conspiracy. And this is just the evidence that we have seen to date.
For years we have talked about Executive Branch agencies being weaponized and doing things that seemed to defy legality.
This is where that rubber meets the road. If its investigated and nothing comes of it....fine. But to try to shut it down before its looked at, calling it a conspiracy, just seems short sighted.
originally posted by: Assassin82
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
Do you really believe the FBI to be worthy of defense? Remove Trump and the rest of this affair from the equation and look at the remainder of the evidence against the FBI. The torching of women and children in Waco. The entrapment on mentally challenged people and calling them terrorists. Their complicit actions in the terror attack at the Dallas Mosque a couple years back. Ruby Ridge. Olympic Park Bomber, and the subsequent harassing literally to death of RIchard Jewell, an innocent man.
Yes. I do believe they are worth defending. It would be dishonest of me to say they have not had their share of incredibly horrible mistakes, including what they had a hand in in Waco, but the vast majority of what they are being accused of right now is complete conspiracy.
Ya, they found some biased nuts in their ranks. That does not mean they did not do their job according to the law and unbiased.
If we want to level charges at the FBI, let's bring real evidence of real wrongdoing and not take the smallest tidbits of information out of content for the sake of personal political narrative.
For now, yes, it is only here say and conspiracy. I like your references to their past mistakes. Wasn’t The waco disaster because of Janet Reno pushing he buttons behind the scenes? I was only 11 or 12 when that happened. But what I’ve seen in documentaries demonstrates a lot of bad judgment within our justice system.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: kurthall
Yeah, and the president has been told, it should not be released. Its a sad day in America, that we have a LIAR, in the office, who tries to discredit our Intel. He will lie about anything and everything, in the name of making himself look good to those who believe him. He will throw anyone and anything under the bus.
You are correct. Trump and the extreme Right Wing will throw anyone under the bus if it helps their narratives.
In this case, they are throwing law enforcement under the bus.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
Then investigate it. Because the evidence suggests there is something far deeper than a conspiracy. And this is just the evidence that we have seen to date.
I disagree. The evidence we have seen suggests biased people work within the FBI. How is that ground-breaking?
For years we have talked about Executive Branch agencies being weaponized and doing things that seemed to defy legality.
You guys have talked about such things. Do not include me in such things.
This is where that rubber meets the road. If its investigated and nothing comes of it....fine. But to try to shut it down before its looked at, calling it a conspiracy, just seems short sighted.
At this point, it appears conspiracies have become part of the equation and mean more than the real truth behind the matters.
For example: Benghazi.