If Hillary was inevitable then why/how did she lose?

a reply to: Boadicea

Very simple. She figured she had enough voter fraud in place in MI, WI, and PA to carry those states but she did not.

originally posted by: dbarnhart
a reply to: Boadicea

Very simple. She figured she had enough voter fraud in place in MI, WI, and PA to carry those states but she did not.

And if so, that could have been compounded by fewer of her likely/expected voters going to the polls, AND by more of Trump's likely/expected voters going to the polls.

Or maybe she just didn't want to win and deliberately sabotaged her candidacy in those states she absolutely needed to carry...

Because of Pizzagate.

If she had won, those investigating her would increase their efforts tenfold in order to expose the corruption of her and her cohorts. Their true nature had become too obvious so they had no choice but to let Trump take the spotlight; Buying themselves more time to avoid prosecution.

Trump's win was seen as Hillary's loss. She lost nothing other than a few inches off her ego...

a reply to: Boadicea

How did she lose? Buy her book, Boadicea, I haven't read it, but I'm sure she enumerates the reasons in great detail, while drinking wine in a mood of sorrow and anguish.

I bet you'll enjoy it.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Boadicea

How did she lose? Buy her book, Boadicea, I haven't read it, but I'm sure she enumerates the reasons in great detail, while drinking wine in a mood of sorrow and anguish.

I bet you'll enjoy it.

LOL! It might be good for a laugh or two... but I'm just not much for pity parties Especially when they're not my own!

a reply to: Boadicea

Yea !!

I was just thinking about it last night.

What kind of "Clintonian utopia" did we all miss out on when the people of the U S did not elect Hillary Clinton as the President of the United States of America ????

originally posted by: tinymind
a reply to: Boadicea

What kind of "Clintonian utopia" did we all miss out on when the people of the U S did not elect Hillary Clinton as the President of the United States of America ????

I shudder at the very thought!

But I also tend to believe that if Hillary had "won" -- and I use that term loosely because we don't really know to what extent fraud and rigging would play in such a win -- that the Dems would have gotten even cockier and more brazen (and therefore more and more reckless and sloppy), and would bring on their own implosion. And in that case we would have seen utter chaos and mayhem.

Instead, what we seem to have is a deliberate and methodical takedown of the criminal and corrupt swamp creatures -- controlled chaos one might call it.

And I don't doubt that many "good" conservatives are going to go down right along with their Democrat counterparts, and many many conservative voters will be as shocked as Democrat voters as they see their heroes fall.

a reply to: Edumakated
Electoral College!!! They couldn't control it so then they wanted to
Eliminate it altogether. Remember the cries of how awful and unfair the Electoral College is when a candidate supposedly has won the popular vote. Also the Democrats used illegals to vote, including even Obama inviting them in. There was enough public outrage over that because people are not quite as dumb as our controllers have tried to make us.

a reply to: Boadicea

I believe it was supposed to look like a lock for Hillary to get her side pumped up and then have Trump pull it out and embolden his supporters and infuriate Hillary's supporters to split us up and turn brother against sister so that the elite can continue with their plan to push everyone in to the lowest class possible and dominate the world and take one more step towards global domination.


Just a thopught

a reply to: torok67

It is a good thought but until after the first GOP debates did Trump start to really build a team. No one thought he would last one debate let alone lead the rest of them. He even skipped one. DNC and GOP were already spending millions. Mr Jeb was supposed to lose.

a reply to: carewemust

You might have a point there. This guy had Trump winning even before Trump won.



Want to know what Mark Taylor said was next? Military Tribunals for the wicked. Think QAnon. I'd bet with this guy and NOT against him. He's got a winning track record!

It's very simple actually, on why she lost. The others commenting on this post are spot on. My reasons all carry equal weight but below are my reasons.
1. She relied on the illegal alien vote and uneducated, uninformed voter. From what I have recently read, California doesn't even require voter identification now.
2. She had No platform but to continue the failed, socialist agenda of Obama. Also, every one should be very concerned about Bernie Sanders and his socialist agenda. He is just a crooked as Hillary.
3. She proudly wanted to bring in millions of UN-vetted, Muslim extremist elements, and make the USA a "sanctuary country", to secure the future Democrat voter base. Also, she wanted to completely open the borders. (Which Trump wants to close).
4. She forgot about the "People". "We the people" .
5. She felt entitled. Just read her book.
6. She had the backing and total support of the far left "news" media which only pumped up her corrupt ego.
In my opinion, "We the people" finally woke up, and sent a message to the corrupt Washington elitist. The swamp is slowly draining.
People just wanted the Clinton's, and their corrupt dynasty to go away. Benghazi, Uranium One, the corrupt Clinton Foundation are just a few other reasons. It all added up.
The far left liberal news organizations, and the polls they conducted, had her swimming in sunshine. Boy, were they wrong. LMAO.
I'm actually surprised the final vote was as close as it was.
I have absolutely no problem with having a female POTUS and we will someday. Within my lifetime, I hope. I am 58 years "young". But definitely not Hillary.
This country needs term limits on all elected government, at all levels. City, County, State and federal levels. Especially the Senate, and House. I could go on and on but I'll stop here.
Most everyone posting here has said the same thing.
Ok, I'm off my soapbox. The above just reflects my views and is not intended to offend any person, group, or political affiliation.
If I did offend you, I really don't care.

a reply to: Spockllap

Thank you -- and welcome to ATS!!! (I think I had the honor of bestowing your first star )

I agree with all your points. I think most of us agree it was a combination of factors. But this stood out to me:

In my opinion, "We the people" finally woke up, and sent a message to the corrupt Washington elitist. The swamp is slowly draining.

It's been a long time coming... and the American people have (for the most part) been very patient. But they just wanted to play their games. They mistook goodness for weakness.

Remember back in the 2000 election when we were constantly told how "polarized" we were? I thought then and I still think today that the people are not polarized, but the PTB want us to be. We basically had (and still have) two craptastic choices -- Dem or Pub. Most of us fall somewhere in the middle, but we have to choose between the craptastic candidate from the left or the craptastic candidate from the right, with about equal results, leading to half of us falling to the left and half of us falling to the right -- and voila! We're "polarized."

But only when viewed from the left-right paradigm. When one looks at the bigger picture, we find that there are actually more independents and third party voters than there are Dems or Pubs. The last I checked (and this was a while ago) Pubs and Dems each accounted for about 30% of the voters, leaving the majority -- about 40% -- as independent or third party. And I'd bet that if every state had open primaries, that even more voters would go independent or third party.

I think this last election showed that the people have been patient but we've all had enough. We're tired of being told who and what we are and should be and must be, and we decided to SHOW the PTB who we really are... we still have lots of growing pains before us, but I think we're getting where we need to be.

Gun control.