The Great Lie is Coming - God Help Us All

Moving my opinion to this thread.

You leftists are amazingly delusional. 
I'm not a republican or a democrat.
I'm pretty much down the middle. I'm fully on board with gay rights, pro choice and keeping religion away from government.
I'm keeping my arsenal of guns, I want less taxes, regulation and smaller govt. 

Trump is definitely the giant douche to Clinton the turd sandwich. 

But you leftists are so embarrassingly partisan it's stunning. 

I just hope you get the help you so obviously need and are able to one day rejoin us in reality. 

a reply to: AboveBoard

My warning to you is be prepared for your idols to fall. #releasethememo

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: MountainLaurel

Then you know how I feel.

I appreciate that good people, sane people, can hold opposing viewpoints.

I'm just calling it as it came to me. What I'm seeing is not good. It is scary.

Maybe I will be proved wrong. If I am that is fine. I just had a weird sort of epiphany moment this morning after getting very little sleep last night.

I still stand by my prediction. But it is only that: a prediction.

I don't know that's it's right or wrong either way,,,,your instincts tell you something not good and scary is happening / coming and I think that too....now once the dust settles will things be better or worse, IDK ? I believe a period of mourning will come 1st. I just pray we are mourning the end of something we can physically and emotionally recover from and that the loons don't blow us all up first !

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Allow me to clarify: I believe I am not wrong. I don't Know that I am not wrong.

Yes. I am just as ideologically biased as most everyone else here. So yes, that's completely true and it's coming out in the form of a prediction about future events that may or may not come to pass - at this point it is a prediction based on a moment of gut-level epiphany this morning upon reading and seeing video of fervent tea party politicians and right wing folk being very emotional about this "memo."

Intuition isnt just about hippy dippy woo woo. It's about a different processing ability of the brain, which can instantly snap something into focus based on past and current information gathered.

I always know I could be wrong, that I Might have had a glitch in that information processing, but it just hit like a ton of bricks this morning and, stupidly, most likely due to lack of sleep, I decided I had to share it, so that when/if it happened I wouldn't just be saying "I knew this would happen," I could prove that I knew it would happen.

I know you disagree with both the content of the prediction and my political views that inform it. You can ignore it then, as something irrelevant to you - you can call it bad info = bad prediction. Whatever.

Or I might be right after all. Time will tell. And soon I think. This will be an easy one - very little waiting time. Or maybe it won't be released and it will just hang out there muddying the waters. In which case it's better that it's seen.

a reply to: Perfectenemy



You keep saying that Obama is dirty, care to share ANY indictments against him or anyone on his team? I can name a few against trumps team.

There have been 0 indictments against the Obama administration in all of its 8 years.


Under Bush Jr, there were 16 indictments and 16 convictions and 9 prison sentences. 8 years in office.

Under Clinton, there were 2 indictments, one conviction ,and one prison sentence. 8 years in office.

Under Bush, there were 4 indictments, 1 conviction and, 1 prison sentence. 4 years in office.

Under Regan, there were a whopping 26 indictments, 16 convictions, and 8 prison sentences. 8 years in office.
www.dailykos.com...

edit on 19-1-2018 by kurthall because: add link

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: AboveBoard

My warning to you is be prepared for your idols to fall. #releasethememo

Hm. Who are my idols? I don't worship political figures. Most are very human and make mistakes.

If they fall justly, then they were not worthy of being raised up. If they fall, or appear to, due to underhanded scheming and lies, then that would be a tragedy.

a reply to: watchitburn

If the memo is a lie - or the spin on its contents - then I am neither delusional nor simply biased.

Believe as you will. That is your right.

(I'm not a Dem. I'm an Independent who leans left, much more moderate than you might realize.)

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: SlapMonkey

Allow me to clarify: I believe I am not wrong. I don't Know that I am not wrong.

Yes. I am just as ideologically biased as most everyone else here. So yes, that's completely true and it's coming out in the form of a prediction about future events that may or may not come to pass - at this point it is a prediction based on a moment of gut-level epiphany this morning upon reading and seeing video of fervent tea party politicians and right wing folk being very emotional about this "memo."

Intuition isnt just about hippy dippy woo woo. It's about a different processing ability of the brain, which can instantly snap something into focus based on past and current information gathered.

I always know I could be wrong, that I Might have had a glitch in that information processing, but it just hit like a ton of bricks this morning and, stupidly, most likely due to lack of sleep, I decided I had to share it, so that when/if it happened I wouldn't just be saying "I knew this would happen," I could prove that I knew it would happen.

I know you disagree with both the content of the prediction and my political views that inform it. You can ignore it then, as something irrelevant to you - you can call it bad info = bad prediction. Whatever.

Or I might be right after all. Time will tell. And soon I think. This will be an easy one - very little waiting time. Or maybe it won't be released and it will just hang out there muddying the waters. In which case it's better that it's seen.

You are right to expect a gigantic distraction that will have no basis in fact at all, and to the extent any of it is fact, none of it at all exonerates Trump.

At each step, whenever anything goes against Trump, the RW machine puts out a distraction to occupy their supporters minds, every time. When the tape of "Grab them by the pusy" came out, it wasn't 8 hours later that Wiki put out the Podesta email.

Now Republicans know for a fact that Mueller is closing in, he has Flynn testifying as to what he knows, Bannon is now speaking as to what he know, the Repub machine knows Jared's shenanigans with Cambridge are about to spill - it's why Mercer divested himself of the hot company that "won the election" according to jared, yet Mercer bailed, he knows it's about to blow up.

So of course a "report" of some kind will be issued, this is what they do. They know they can put it out on Fox, it'll be screamed about on Breitbart, and the news of all the stuff coming out in the real investigation will not be covered.

Because they can't counter the facts, they're destroying the messenger, Russian collusion is fine.

Party over Country, Putin over Democrats. They simply don't care that we're under Russian control, they know Putin hates Dems, too, so it's fine.

a reply to: AboveBoard

LOL you sound very contradictory to you statement. U want justice, but want no proof of evidence if it disprove you cognitive dissonance... perhaps some school will fix that lack of logic of yours.

a reply to: AboveBoard

The media idol of Barack Obama. They built him into an idol. People just idolized him and extolled his graces. Maybe not you per se, but many others.

originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: AboveBoard

LOL you sound very contradictory to you statement. U want justice, but want no proof of evidence if it disprove you cognitive dissonance... perhaps some school will fix that lack of logic of yours.

I do want justice. That is true.

I think that the memo is a strategy to avoid justice.

There is no cognitive dissonance.

originally posted by: MountainLaurel

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: MountainLaurel

Then you know how I feel.

I appreciate that good people, sane people, can hold opposing viewpoints.

I'm just calling it as it came to me. What I'm seeing is not good. It is scary.

Maybe I will be proved wrong. If I am that is fine. I just had a weird sort of epiphany moment this morning after getting very little sleep last night.

I still stand by my prediction. But it is only that: a prediction.

I don't know that's it's right or wrong either way,,,,your instincts tell you something not good and scary is happening / coming and I think that too....now once the dust settles will things be better or worse, IDK ? I believe a period of mourning will come 1st. I just pray we are mourning the end of something we can physically and emotionally recover from and that the loons don't blow us all up first !

Aye then. I can drink to that!


Peace to you and yours.

a reply to: Perfectenemy

I hope you are correct.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: AboveBoard

The media idol of Barack Obama. They built him into an idol. People just idolized him and extolled his graces. Maybe not you per se, but many others.

I realize that to many he was the worst president ever. I disagree with that assessment, but I don't idolize him. He's quite human and fallible.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: AboveBoard

The media idol of Barack Obama. They built him into an idol. People just idolized him and extolled his graces. Maybe not you per se, but many others.

Hey, I don't think the media made him into an idol, although I did not vote for him, he was and is a very down to earth, and practical guy, he connected well with many people. Of coarse some of you may have hated him, but he at least appeared to be presidential, and like he genuinely cared about the American people. Very well spoken and commanded your attention. trump does none of that.


Like it or not America was already getting great again, under Obama, I am doing allot better now than 9 years ago, and so is the entire U.S. We were at Record Unemployment rates. A year ago when trump took over it was already down to what 5% or something like that.

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: SlapMonkey

I know you disagree with both the content of the prediction and my political views that inform it. You can ignore it then, as something irrelevant to you - you can call it bad info = bad prediction. Whatever.

Actually, I don't think that you know why I'm disagreeing with you. My whole beef is with people--this time being you--who fabricate claims based on zero knowledge--true knowledge--about that which they're discussing.

Your political view is not "informing you" of anything, it's causing you to prematurely jump to conclusions and play the guessing game--and it absolutely is a guessing game. I understand what intuition is, and this is a poor example of it, and any lite reading on the topic concerning how biases effect decisions and outlooks will tell you that this is not intuition proper, at least insofar as a true intuitive conclusion based on subconscious sensory elements providing your brain with information that you didn't know you received (but is accurate).

Again, you had a thought that supported (or was caused by) your ideological biases, and you felt a need to share so that you could justify saying, "I knew it!"

That's not intuition, that's a bastardization of intuition.

But just for fun:

in·tu·i·tion
/ˌint(y)o͞oˈiSH(ə)n/

noun

the ability to understand something immediately, without the need for conscious reasoning.

And see, that's the thing--when it comes to documents to which you are not privy to the information contained in them, intuition cannot be a thing, because we need conscious reasoning brought on by actually reading the information to have an ability to understand.

So, therein lies my beef with this thread. I will now slowly back away from it, because you are catching enough heat in here, and while I wanted to say my piece, I'm really not trying to bash on you simply for the sake of bashing, but I do want you to understand my approach to what you said and why I find it silly.

Best regards...and good luck with those who ARE bashing for the sake of bashing.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

I've researched this from Manafort (who, if you dig around you'll find is a bad dude) joining the campaign. I was going to do a thread on him way back then, but opted against it because I also had that dream I referenced around the same time and frankly, these guys scare the crap out of me.

That is not "no knowledge."

As to the document in question - I have not seen it, this is true. That is why I'm putting this in this forum, not to be a wise-aleck but because I'm genuinely seeing a path unfolding that hasn't yet manifested. That is what a prediction is, and while it may seem silly (and I do understand why), it doesn't mean I'm automatically wrong.

As for my doom prediction-I feel it coming. I hope we can avoid it and that justice will prevail.

Thank you. Your "beef" is not unreasonable. I appreciate you taking the time to explain. Heck, any kind of prediction like this can sound nuts and irrational. If I'd been feeling more rational and less sleep deprived I probably would have done the smart thing and kept it all to myself.






ETA : This same intuitive feeling led me to know (in spite of my rational mind) that Trump
Would win the election back in January 2016. That's when I posted my dream. So I have a bit of a track record but obviously I'm not putting out a shingle as a psychic. I've have other things like this too.

This one feels mutable, like we are on a precipice and it could "go there" to my feared doom scenario or we could pull back from the edge. This memo thing feels like, to me, a shove towards the edge...

a reply to: AboveBoard

If you say so.

a reply to: watchitburn



Well, it's not often I offer myself up to be flayed on ATS, but when I do, I like to include as much irrational delusion as possible, just to Make it seem completely justified. /sarc

a reply to: kurthall
He sure did and he did it here: Trump’s Bromance With Putin