FISA ‘Info Suggests Documents Catastrophically Bad For Dems’: Adam Schiff Leaks Dry Up

originally posted by: JBurns

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Greven

My main point was that The Memo is real and
based in fact upon classified documents from
the FBI and DOJ. The reason this is important
is some members are calling it fake, and BS.

Aside from that, sneaky Dianne did not follow procedure.

Neither did Manning. Apparently for some people
there are acceptable ways to break the law.

Again, Feinstein did not release a classified document, so far as I am aware.

Her actions may be damaging in so much as it discourages witness testimony, but the action is not illegal.

Arbitrarily, releasing classified documents, like Manning did, is illegal.

Slow down.

You skimmed over the largest and opening paragraph.

My main point was that The Memo is real and
based in fact upon classified documents from
the FBI and DOJ. The reason this is important
is some members are calling it fake, and BS.

Sneaky Diane is a secondary issue.

'Sneaky Diane' is a non-issue that people seem to want to make an issue because of partisanship.

None of that first paragraph is new information.

originally posted by: Greven

Again, Feinstein did not release a classified document, so far as I am aware.

Her actions may be damaging in so much as it discourages witness testimony, but the action is not illegal.

Her actions could be illegal. Now compared to Hiilary Clinton
in which her actions were definitely illegal.

The same people defending Hillary are the ones rolling eyes
at this Memo. Not necessarily you, however this is sheer hypocrisy.

Arbitrarily, releasing classified documents, like Manning did, is illegal.

And so is arbitrarily setting up a private server to send classified and
Top Secret documents to your $ buddies.

I hope I am getting my point across.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Trump's got them in a double-bind for a double whammy paradigm shift, along with many of the American people who used to be mesmerized by Celebrity culture (blue pill) but just aren't buying it any more. God has used Trump to fool the people, but not for much longer.

The American people are hungry and thirsty for the truth, no matter how painful.

WE, the right, must have the courage and the wisdom not to demonize the left, while extending to them the sturdy right hand of reason and friendship, but most certainly to draw the line in the distinction between Liberal Left and well, the left hand path.

Problem is, under current leadership the ones at the top like Pelosi, Clinton, Obama (background), Soros, etc. etc. unto, what the devil, I don't know how to describe it, satanism, are among the worst of the worst in relation to Washington power and politics.

Wipe them and their whole structure and mountain of evil away for a generation, and make them (the REAL Democratic Party) rebuild again from the ground up, while also holding the Republican establishment accountable to the new agenda, and what basically amounts to the 2nd American Revolution, which will not and cannot remain quiet for much longer..!

God will have his say, and by that, what I mean is that the truth and JUSTICE will prevail if brave people at all levels do SOMETHING, however big or small, however fast or gradually, as the lessor or greater part of we - it doesn't matter.

Everything can change and shift in the twinkling of an eye.

One day it's celebrity culture and the MSM, the next a whole new world of possibility, while Justice seeks out the evil and wicked, and enemies both foreign AND domestic.

Make no mistake. This is a war, and at any time we will hear the shot that will be heard across the world, if it hasn't already.

When we know what's going on behind the scenes, right now, and have two way comms so to speak with POTUS, along with the opportunity to participate and to educate (this isn't about anyone's dislike for Trump personally but much much greater things), then that's an absolutely historic moment in time and history, and we're a part of it. I am. You are.

I think that the GIANT has awoken to his true nature! which is very very POWERFUL.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!


Be blessed (not blessed be),

Ankh

#followthewhiterabbit

a reply to: burntheships
I don't see the relevance, sorry.

I didn't vote for Hillary and haven't really defended her on many things.

Fish elsewhere.

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: Scrubdog

Obama did nothing.

Wow. Thanks for the laugh. You are funny i give you that.

Funny indeed..haha. Now back to the show.. One of President Trump's attorney's says that Obama-Clinton spied on more people than just the Trump family.

Source: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

What other high-profile individuals would have been on Obama's enemy list?

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Greven

Again, Feinstein did not release a classified document, so far as I am aware.

Her actions may be damaging in so much as it discourages witness testimony, but the action is not illegal.

Her actions could be illegal. Now compared to Hiilary Clinton
in which her actions were definitely illegal.

The same people defending Hillary are the ones rolling eyes
at this Memo. Not necessarily you, however this is sheer hypocrisy.

Arbitrarily, releasing classified documents, like Manning did, is illegal.

And so is arbitrarily setting up a private server to send classified and
Top Secret documents to your $ buddies.

I hope I am getting my point across.

Not to mention... that there was supposedly some SAP level files on the Clinton server, that she was not read in to. If any of us worked in .gov, had a clearance, and were caught with SAP materials on a personal device, we would be going to Leavenworth for a LONG time.

Here's the thing... there are folks that believe that one of the reasons for Clintons private server, was for part of her "pay to play".

So... do the math... EXTREMELY Classified SAP .gov secrets on Clintons server... materials she should NOT have been in possession of... and a server that was most certainly penetrated by foreign actors. Get the picture?

And please... if anyone is going to chime in here and say "there's no proof her server was hacked", just save it. It was hacked, and probably by multiple nations cyber-warfare peeps. The security on the server was trivial... a "script kitty" in his parents basement could have hacked it.

a reply to: dasman888

There's an even simpler way to look at this. Plain, good old fashioned espionage. And the best part is it would seem like it was done for the simple grubby reason of money. If it was done for some sort of cause I could almost accept it.

It's kind of clever really. You set up a server with next to no security and run it as an email server. You then do regular government business with it. Shouldn't be allowed, but hey, Clinton. Obama was aware of it because he sent emails to it. This was probably part of the bread breaking that was allowed from the whole Obama coming out of nowhere to become president. She was "supposed" to be the first female president then. The establishment had other ideas.

She then was given the consolation prize of Secretary of State. This gave her clearance and access to all kinds of state secrets. Then came the bidding. You want details? Pony up the cash and it appears on the server. Everyone else can see it if they want, but that gives cover.

One thing I haven't been able to discover. Where exactly were these files kept on the server? Inbox, outbox, drafts? What was the structure of the folders? If it was inbox it would be super easy to track where they came from. Outbox would be straight up espionage. Where were the files located? Anyone know?

Has anyone seen this explanation of the FISA Memo yet? This is the best written article I've seen in a long time.

"The Evidence Inside The “House Intel Committee Four Page FISA Memo”…"

theconservativetreehouse.com...

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

Haha. Thanks. If anything, it's helping me be less partisan and seeing where the left needs improvement too.

We need people like you in that side, left leaning and logical thinking. Not enough of that in the D's anymore. The one from Hawaii, Gabby I think, she is worthy and I can't seem to find many others. Too many RINO's or the dialogue would be able to move forward. Both sides of the aisle have been playing us for a UNIPARTY i believe. Ron Paul, Ross Perot and now DJT gave us a real chance to do something about the Uniparty. They literally stole Paul's chance just as Hillary's team did Bernie's chance. Perot was making sure Daddy Bush got beat by Clinton who was saying the right things a conservative should but had Hillary running his ideas in the ground behind his back before the sex scandals in the Oval Office broke.

Thanks and hello. Tulsi Gabbard is great.

Yes, we exist! Haha. There are a lot of us. It's just the media and DNC is pushing a dogmatic, hysterical view of liberalism and identity politics at this time. I think that is purposeful. It also makes it seem like ALL of us are like that.

We do need to deconstruct the uniparty, as this establishment only serves the rich and powerful.

Are you sure Trump isn't part of that? I think he is, and is a faux outsider. His family has always been establishment and deep in the Northeast political, business, and crime game. Deep connections to the mafia too.

a reply to: burntheships

Her actions weren't illegal move on.
Where's that alleged memo??? What's the hold up?

a reply to: AnkhMorpork

God who?

a reply to: Greven

Oh that's the label you have to wear around here if you don't support trump. No matter how far we get away from 2016 the election will never be over until they can arrest the opposition. And prove she didn't get three million more votes.
I'm sorry. I am a Hillary supporter and I'm afraid I've brought this down on any one who opposes trump. They just assume...

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Are you sure Trump isn't part of that? I think he is, and is a faux outsider. His family has always been establishment and deep in the Northeast political, business, and crime game. Deep connections to the mafia too.

Here's the thing. I just spent a lazy day on the couch watching the History Channel. They had a show on Trump. He was spouting exactly the same things he ran the campaign on back in the 80's. If he's establishment then he's been running a real loooong game.

I'm sure he did what had to be done to gain his billions. You don't get to that level by playing by the rules unless you're really lucky. See Bill Gates for reference. I find it curious that he was ever a friend of the Clintons based on the show I just watched. His personal beliefs were completely opposite to the Clintons.

So the question becomes "Why Now?" He's old and could have quite easily spent the rest of his days in comfort. Instead he ran for president an put himself and his family up for the most intense scrutiny and pressure from the media and the whole political machine ever! Why? Who convinced him to do this?

QAnon is starting to make sense.

edit on 20-1-2018 by TheAiIsLying because: (no reason given)

a reply to: TheAiIsLying

This was a response to another thread. It glitched out. Have no idea what happened.

a reply to: TheAiIsLying

Nested quotes broke it. Here is your post:

Are you sure Trump isn't part of that? I think he is, and is a faux outsider. His family has always been establishment and deep in the Northeast political, business, and crime game. Deep connections to the mafia too.

Here's the thing. I just spent a lazy day on the couch watching the History Channel. They had a show on Trump. He was spouting exactly the same things he ran the campaign on back in the 80's. If he's establishment then he's been running a real loooong game.

I'm sure he did what had to be done to gain his billions. You don't get to that level by playing by the rules unless you're really lucky. See Bill Gates for reference. I find it curious that he was ever a friend of the Clintons based on the show I just watched. His personal beliefs were completely opposite to the Clintons.

So the question becomes "Why Now?" He's old and could have quite easily spent the rest of his days in comfort. Instead he ran for president an put himself and his family up for the most intense scrutiny and pressure from the media and the whole political machine ever! Why? Who convinced him to do this?

QAnon is starting to make sense.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Cheers Don't know how you fixed it but thanks!

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

one thing i am sure of, DJT is not part of it. They all wouldn't be willing to lie so blatantly to get him. RINO's and Dem leaders are lying their asses off and getting busted by the truth. Once we establish they are lying to hurt and gain power over the populace, i want them fired or arrested. We all should want that to happen.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: Scrubdog

Obama did nothing.

Wow. Thanks for the laugh. You are funny i give you that.

Funny indeed..haha. Now back to the show.. One of President Trump's attorney's says that Obama-Clinton spied on more people than just the Trump family.

Source: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

What other high-profile individuals would have been on Obama's enemy list?

That reminds me of the CIA getting busted for hacking into the Senate Intelligence Committee's computers. I'm sure the FBI was using FISA in someway to spy on Republicans in Congress as well.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
Just listen.

They lay it all out.

Nunes isn't done with his investigation.

#releasethedocument

Dream on.

I won't be the one with the rude awakening.

originally posted by: Deetermined

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: Scrubdog

Obama did nothing.

Wow. Thanks for the laugh. You are funny i give you that.

Funny indeed..haha. Now back to the show.. One of President Trump's attorney's says that Obama-Clinton spied on more people than just the Trump family.

Source: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

What other high-profile individuals would have been on Obama's enemy list?

That reminds me of the CIA getting busted for hacking into the Senate Intelligence Committee's computers. I'm sure the FBI was using FISA in someway to spy on Republicans in Congress as well.

That would explain why some Republicans were uncharacteristically angry after viewing the 4 page document. At first, I thought it was just showboating. You're right..those additional people on Obama's "Enemies List" are most likely Republicans in Congress.