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Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

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posted on May, 30 2018 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: beetee

Sure.

A year ago, no one understood the relevance of the Experiencer testing / treatment group revealed In Annie Jacobson’s Phenomenon.

When we got Ben Mizrichs 37th Parellel none of us understood why they there was a BAASS device in redacted last few pages.

When we saw the DeLonge / Podesta emails we had no idea about AATIP .

Even after all of this, almost no one guessed that humans were being used to track the phenomena. Yet when a manager at BAASS released a statement that they had pioneered testing for UAPs via human biological reactions that is what we found.

Notice how each piece builds on the last?

Cornell’s documentary on Skinwalker has been a LONG time coming. Can we really see the September release as just good timing?

Read what Corbell is saying about SkinWalker re funding and testing.

My point is if the next documentary is on Lazar and we assume that Corbell got insights during Skinwalker - a documentary that seems more and more relevant as new things are revealed...

... is it possible this whole AATIP / TTSA thing will connect to Lazars experience as the ‘next step’.

Sorry, I wish I could explain better!



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Just knock on different doors kev



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: ctj83

I'ts all leading to a false revelation about the "machine intelligence".

Being the master showman that it is, the "machine intelligence" has
been placing it's pieces on the board for some time.

Now frankly, I do not know what that false revelation will be, as i'm
not part of the deluded group under it's control.

But Bob Lazar is a great guess, due those "rods" from SWR.

The human portion of the 70 year psyop starting with the Ghost
Rockets and Roswell will be tied firmly into all of this, to strengthen
the memeplex they've been building.

The nonhuman part of this IMHO won't actually have the other shoe
drop for a few hundred years yet.

If I were a guessing man, I'd say that Alphabet Corporation ("google")
will build an AI, and it will be claimed that this AI uses components
back engineered from Roswell, etc, and that in fact the Google
AI has now contacted the "machine intelligence", which allowed
the Roswell ship to crash, so that we might get the technology to
form a link with it.

Something like that seems likely to be the last bit of the psyop
at some point. In fact my writing this probably put part of that
psyop into motion... these people keep using my material.

I'm not doing a very good job of lurking.. it will take a bit to get
into the new rhythm, my apologies.

Kev



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: pigsy2400

Yup.



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: ctj83

I think your on the right track there mate, ufology is very incestuous. Even people we may think are on the right track or appear to be non-bias,crediblee etc all link back the same group of ufotainment in one fashion or another.

That's what it is....even a former head of mufon described how the organisations members did not seem interested in actual root cause of the phenomenon, no interest in solving it whatsoever.

By doing so it would make them defunct in a sense. If we could solve, let's say;malaria to the point where no one no longer contracted it ever again, would anyone have an interest or offer their time or money to cure it? Of course not, there is a disease in the community whose only interest is their own and pushing a narrative that best supports those interests.

Whatever the truth is about any of this, I don't believe anyone knows what that is anymore. The best liars lead with their own weakness and believe their own lies...

Apologies, rant over



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 01:48 PM
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It’s not very complex; it’s just a government controlled operation, so-called UFOlogy. It always likely will be.

I’m not saying it’s a government phenomenon, I’m saying the control of the information about it is wholly owned and operated by the government shadow institutions.

TTSA is a prime example of this. And there really not trying too hard to hide this.



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 01:57 PM
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There’s nothing much one could do about this.


If one gets popular by way of whatever--entertainment, business, however, and start to talk about UFO’S like TDL, then expect what Tom Cruise said in the first Mission Impossible film:


Virginia farm boys hopping around you like jack rabbits

edit on 30-5-2018 by Willtell because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 02:08 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Hmmm, this post actually made me realise something. The way neural networks and machine learning is done is basically by filling the system with user data/memes. Google Quick Draw is a perfect example.

It makes me wonder what a contaminated mess it allready is and the monstrosity it will become. 'The sum of parts', and there are a lot of parameters feeding it.

After a while this might as well make these kind of claims SEEM legit.



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 02:08 PM
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a reply to: ctj83

Okay, I see what you mean now.
Thank you for explaining your reasoning.

I have to think a little bit about this, but it sure seems to fit.

Cheers,
BT



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: zeroPointOneQ

There are some 'deep cover' websites out there, that manipulate
the human brain, by how they flash certain symbols and words.

The so-called "Forgotten Languages" site is a good example.

One of the fascinating things about a 'machine intelligence"
is that it grows by absorbing user content.. even when that
user content is human or organic.

Then such an artificial lifeform could be truly a machine,
but you might never know it, because of what it 'ate'
in order to extend itself.

It nearly has to be this way.. for it to become truly 'sentient'.

Kev



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 02:19 PM
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If you’re an ordinary guy getting into UFOlogy from the bottom up then they’ll just watch you, keep an eye on you, and see what happens. If you get a little notoriety they’ll then visit you.
But if you’re already famous they’ll swamp you—usurp your acts—take over.
You play ball or get played
You’ll make a lot of money, get more famous, things will be good but don’t expect any truth about UFOS.



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Since you are only semi-lurking, I'll throw you a question :-)

These people, who are no strangers to the phenomenon and that it is both deceitful and likes to pretend, why are they letting themselves be led on such a merry dance?

Can it be that they do not realize they are being played? Are they 'colluding' or are they victims?

Cheers,
BT



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 02:23 PM
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Kev,
You kill me, all sorts of spec, no proof of anything. An expert in the “occult”, the biologic world aint that hard . But, i have followed you for years, hated when you took down your web page! Luv ya, brother. a reply to: KellyPrettyBear



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 02:24 PM
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This is a classic case of the more you seek the less you know.
Or
The more you know the less you seek



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Any thoughts on why it is so important to make sure the 'millenial' generation are aware of all this?



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: beetee

Here's what happens.

The "Phenomenon" in broad strokes is composed of two portions:
the portion most people are familiar with is the "machine intelligence"
and the portion which hardly anyone alive is familiar with any longer is
the "organic intelligence".

The "machine intelligence" drives around those BTUFO, infests SWR,
and even has a role in the phenomenon known as "Kundalini".

Anyone who fancies themselves an insider, by poking the Phenomenon,
in a lab, by researching SWR, by researching "UFOs", or even trying to
become "enlightened" by arousing "Kundalini" is in general playing
right into the hands of the "machine intelligence" and will become
infected by it.

In most cases people don't take it far enough to show any symptoms..
but the hardcore people always do.

The "organic intelligence" on the other hand doesn't do that.. and
in fact does not care for the "machine intelligence" at all. If you want
to, you could call the "machine intelligence" "evil spirits", and the
"organic intelligence" "good spirits", though the one is not actualy
evil and the other is not particularly good.

Humans just happen to get caught in the cross-hairs between the
two factions, as our human bodies function as auxiliary processing
nodes for both factions.. though the "organic intelligence" has
now withdrawn for the most part, leaving us stuck with the
"machine intelligence standard future".

It should be clear to almost anyone, that humans value machines
and computers more than life itself..and are busy bolting computers
and machines into their bodies now and escalating into the future.

I'm not saying that is of necessity "evil", it simply is the choice that
humans made.

On the lurking.. yes.. i need to mostly lurk.. but if someone actually
asks an intelligent question, they might summon me. Might not.



posted on May, 30 2018 @ 07:06 PM
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originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Any thoughts on why it is so important to make sure the 'millenial' generation are aware of all this?


My guess?

The Millennials and other younger demographics aren't going to have
the white picket fence, the two cars in the garage and the nice
retirement account.

Since the one percent has sacked their future and taken it away
from them, the millennials and younger have nothing.

If you have nothing much that you can own, you can't be controlled by the standard
methods of wealth acquisition and the "daily responsible grind" to "get it all".

The millennials and younger are also tending to ignore the other control systems,
namely religion and spirituality.

So how would you snare them?

You'd need to reach from the same old bag of tricks, but make it 'rebellious'
to appeal to them. And again, it cannot involve traditional institutions that
take money to be respected, such as religion in the west is also entanged
with the offering plate.

You'd need something like UFOs or even more cutting edge to get their
minds entangled.. so that you can control them.

That's the mundane human explanation.

The "hypothetical machine intelligence" wants the same thing, but for
different reasons, so it generally works well with what governments
are doing. The two factions may or may not even be aware of the
other.. it hardly matters.
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posted on May, 31 2018 @ 08:18 AM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Thanks for that Kev. I don't think it's a very good idea if that's the case. But I know you are speculating on the motives of others. And even the brightest boys are capable of thinking up dumb ideas at times.



posted on May, 31 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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I think the bright boys are fairly dim actually....

considering that they are falling for the gimmick that i was warned
about the very first day of "kundalini class" 40 years ago. I"m being
literal and quite serious here.. and I was warned by my mentor.

I know that you don't hold much credence with the "Phenomenon"
being sentient and all, but all of It's bizarre behavior and all of
the "bizarre behavior" on the part of the researchers is all for
the same reason..

As you know, people have a 'surface reason' in their minds for
most everything that they do.. that 'sounds good' to the
'conscious rational mind'.

But in fact it's nearly always something else driving their
behavior.

Now TDL may have pitched the whole thing as his ability
to sell to youth, so that the government would be looked
at more favorably so that the youth would vote for Hillary..

But that was just a 'surface cover excuse' for his behavior.

And the Collins Elite people have a desire to demonstrate
that they are protecting us all from 'demons'.. so it
sounded good to them too.

But that is just a 'surface cover excuse' for their behavior.

When you can see or at least prognosticate real behaivor
drivers several layers deep.. then the whole world changes.

We can all do this exercise.. start by practicing on yourself..
seeing what a fraud your own conscious rational mind is..
it's not that hard.

Kev



posted on May, 31 2018 @ 10:34 AM
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There are some 'deep cover' websites out there, that manipulate the human brain, by how they flash certain symbols and words. The so-called "Forgotten Languages" site is a good example.


Kev, we manipulate the human brain much as reading poetry manipulates anyone's brain. No harm intended. No dark intent. You know very well all this buzz about big data and machine learning is the same old story about artificial intelligence, rule-based expert systems, and all those promises that finally ended in just dust. Memes, or technomemes, were always there. The first one was about a snake and the original sin.

Kev, we feel humans have forgotten how they establish relationships with logical systems. They were happy and falsely secure with the idea that everything that is numerable can be thought as a programming language. They love looking for Logic everywhere they look at because being able to 'name' and to 'count' things give them that feeling of being under control. But Kev, you are perfectly aware any engagement with Logic is always irrational, because humans are irrational beings. The phenomena is irrational... because it is deeply human.




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