Can we expect a typical beautiful woman to be normal?

a reply to: antiantonym

what a philosophical question that one simply cannot answer. Physical beauty has been scientifically explained as perfection, a perfect balance between the right and the left side of the body. Freckles for example has been called imperfection. A woman with freckles still can be beautiful in a physical aspect can she be not?

Let me ask you this, what is a 'typical beautiful' woman for you? Furthermore what is 'normal' for you? It is all depending on the individuals perception. I know women that look absolutely stunning with perfect features and they are also the nicest people in every way. I also know less attractive persons who are complete pricks.

If I look at your question as a simple question my answer is simple, yes. But its not black and white, this question worth a debate with most likely seven and a half billion different opinion

Being as incredibly handsome, dashing, debonair as I I too have the curse of angelic good looks it effects me everyday.
You just have to be humble and modest with it.

originally posted by: Edumakated
1) Beautiful face & body
2) Intelligent
3) Porn star in sack

You can only pick two.

3 twice.

a reply to: randomtangentsrme

Yeah sure after high school - the pretty ones in high school hung around with d^heads

Your premise is false.....not all woman of beauty are given special treatment. I mean a real skank of a woman damn near became President of The United States of America.....so your premise is false. Now if you would have said, make-up wearing, knuckle dragging pantsuit bitch gets special treatment because of her beauty we would know that your really young and know not what you do. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.....always has been.

originally posted by: Edumakated
Dream girl options...

1) Beautiful face & body
2) Intelligent
3) Porn star in sack

You can only pick two.

OK...I'll have two porn stars please.

a reply to: AMPTAH

Normality is a range of things that not only social sciences are based on but all of society is based on. If the concept of normality were false, no society could exist. Why do you think schools are actually brainwashing centers? It's because that works to create normality (drone workers). Normality is the basis of all societies.

a reply to: Bluesma

This is tough because everyone is damaged in different ways. I didn't specifically write this in the original post, but the particular damage I was talking about is becoming narcissistic, egocentric, and developing a feeling of being entitled to special treatment. I wrote the following on the third page of this thread, but it was ignored. I hope you'll comment on it.

I want to make it clear that I'm not complaining about any of this or "bashing women." I'm just trying to gain an understanding.

If a boy grows up looking like Justin Bieber then it will probably cause him to develop some narcissism. That's similar between the sexes.

Let's face it; it's not nearly the same overall. Gender roles are an important factor as I'll explain below.

A gorgeous girl is treated better by everyone basically. A gorgeous boy gets treated a lot better than the average boy, but it's not so much better than the average boy that it's necessarily life-changing.

Here's a metaphor that explains how I see it:

If the average boy skins his knee, someone washes it off, and he's told to be more careful. The gorgeous boy gets the same treatment.

If an average-looking girl skins her knee, she gets it washed off with a bandage put on it. She also gets a warm hug.

If a gorgeous girl skins her knee, she gets it washed off with a bandage put on it with a warm hug. She also gets enough cookies and candy to make her feel all better.

Imagine that metaphorical situation being repeated for most of the gorgeous girl's life. How can that not produce narcissism and other problems?

"You don't have to be beautiful in order to make a sandwich."
-Plato

originally posted by: DBCowboy

"You don't have to be beautiful in order to make a sandwich."
-Plato

"And lo, said the Lord, I shall taketh one of thine ribs and maketh WOMAN, and she shall asketh thee loaded questions liketh, 'Does this fig leaf make my ass look fat?' and 'doseth thou think my sister Lilith is pretty'? And thou shalt loseth thine mind and reverteth to liquor and hard drugs. So sayeth the Lord." Genesis 4:15-17

Look at all the sexist comments in this thread!

I got called out for "women bashing" when I did ZERO of that. Yet the sexist comments aren't being called out at all.

Is it a conspiracy?

originally posted by: Edumakated
Dream girl options...

1) Beautiful face & body
2) Intelligent
3) Porn star in sack

You can only pick two.

I guess I struck it very lucky then, as my wife is all 3. Plus she is the kindest, most caring woman I have ever known, an outstanding mother to our 5 year old daughter and her 21 year old son from a previous marriage and to cap it all she is an amazing cook.
Not saying that is where women belong as I do my fair share of cooking and cleaning.
She also runs a very successful holiday letting agency.

Yes I am very lucky, more so that she hasn't realised I'm punching well above my weight with her!!

Merry Christmas everyone and a happy new year

originally posted by: shinzaun
I guess I struck it very lucky then, as my wife is all 3.

Pics, my man, pics.

originally posted by: antiantonym
Look at all the sexist comments in this thread!

I got called out for "women bashing" when I did ZERO of that. Yet the sexist comments aren't being called out at all.

Is it a conspiracy?

It's historical.


As one of our founding fathers once said;

"Chicks be tripping, yo."
-Abraham Lincoln, in a letter to Penthouse Forums.

Depends on the upbringing,i'd say.A good friend of mine has a daughter that is Terrifyingly,heartstoppingly gorgeous.I seriously am talking Miss World/Miss Universe drop-dead,traffic stoppingly beautiful.But she was brought up by very very down to earth parents,and an aunt who is a maths teacher,also practical and down to earth.Gave up her virginity to a guy who dumped her the next day,so even the greatest beauty does not bring immunity against total jerks,is a lesson she painfully learnt.She is now studying corporate and maritime law on a bursary,wants to be independent and have her own career.I haven't seen her for a few years but she was always a nice down to earth girl.

is anyone normal, really?

originally posted by: antiantonym
a reply to: AMPTAH

Normality is a range of things that not only social sciences are based on but all of society is based on. If the concept of normality were false, no society could exist. Why do you think schools are actually brainwashing centers? It's because that works to create normality (drone workers). Normality is the basis of all societies.

I have never met a normal person.

Everyone I know is exceptional in some way.

And their exception is different from the other people I know.

So, ok, they are normal in the sense that they wear similar clothes, have two hands and two feet, and speak the same language I do. But, there's always some "trait" in which they exhibit their own unique exception.

If I choose to consider only the things that are common, e.g. they all look human, then I can construct an idea of normality that would fit them all.

But, for some reason, it's the exceptional things that catch my attention, and by which I recognize them and remember who they are.

So, I think the idea of "normal" is invented by us. It's a concept that is forced onto a group of people, by just "selecting" those things that are common, and ignoring the real differences.

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Edumakated
Dream girl options...

1) Beautiful face & body
2) Intelligent
3) Porn star in sack

You can only pick two.

I want the girl in this song:

I married the girl in this song:

a reply to: AMPTAH

You're essentialy saying that normality doesn't exist to you because you choose not to believe in it?

I go by statistics, science, and what I see with my eyes.

87% of Americans are religious.
m.huffpost.com...

88% of Americans graduate high school.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Half Of Women Are Dependent On Makeup, Study Says
m.huffpost.com...

The labor force participation rate remained at 62.7 percent in November and has shown no clear trend over the past 12 months.
tradingeconomics.com...

With that said, I wrote the following on the first page:

It's impossible to define normal because it's dependent on culture. You frequently can't even define normal within the confines of a particular country because there are often very different cultures that exist in different parts of a country. For example, what's normal in the Southern Californian culture is not normal in the culture of the rust belt.

I would definitely expect the following from a normal Southern Californian woman:

Wears makeup, has a job, has a religion, finished high school

If we can say that over 50% of all Southern Californian women have those characteristics, then we're starting to create a good profile of what a normal Southern Californian woman is.

If you're going to tell me that those four characteristics aren't important because each person is unique in some way, you're just using the cherry picking logical fallacy to make a fallacious argument.

All of those characteristics tell us a lot about a person. One could write a book on what those things signify.

a reply to: antiantonym

If you are saying that it's a 50/50 proposition that a woman is dependent on makeup, then that's not necessarily a normal thing is it?

That's like saying it's normal for any random person you meet on the street to be a woman, but it's not. It's just as likely that you'll meet a man because the sex ratio is pretty close to 50/50.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: antiantonym

If you are saying that it's a 50/50 proposition that a woman is dependent on makeup, then that's not necessarily a normal thing is it?

That's like saying it's normal for any random person you meet on the street to be a woman, but it's not. It's just as likely that you'll meet a man because the sex ratio is pretty close to 50/50.

You went far beyond spinning my words. You just made something up that isn't there at all.

In my experience, it's hard to find a woman in Southern California who doesn't wear makeup.

At the same time, I imagine it's hard to find an Amish woman who wears makeup.

Same country but far different cultures. What's normal is dependent on culture. I don't know how you completely missed that part of my post. It's the crux of the issue to me.

There is no normality in a society without the backdrop of a culture to compare things to. We're seeing that with how Muslim refugees can't assimilate into Western culture.