May loses Commons Brexit Vote

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: CulturalResilience

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Bye bye may. You won’t be missed.....

If we get Boris you might regret saying that..

Rees Mogg must feel so close to Number Ten tonight that he can taste it.

Thanks for that thought. Now I can wake up screaming in the middle of the night.

Seconded with added nausea.

I forgot about the nausea. Probably best to mention the rocking in the corner as well.

dont have much knowledge about eu stuff... can someone explain what this means? and if its good or bad?

originally posted by: Jiggly
dont have much knowledge about eu stuff... can someone explain what this means? and if its good or bad?

Guessing you are a US citizen?
Imagine our government giving up our sovereignty to the United Nations to create our laws.
That is what the UK government cronies did when they gave up their laws and sovereignty to the EU.....

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Jiggly
dont have much knowledge about eu stuff... can someone explain what this means? and if its good or bad?

Guessing you are a US citizen?
Imagine our government giving up our sovereignty to the United Nations to create our laws.
That is what the UK government cronies did when they gave up their laws and sovereignty to the EU.....

The people voted to undo that mistake in a direct democracy referendum and elements of the UK political establishment are seeking to nullify that vote through shenanigans.

a reply to: CulturalResilience

I did notice, however, you did not dispute my assessment. Only made a personal attack.
That seems to speak volumes to me and I am sure others that see this farce for what it is, and how you all were duped.

Good luck with that. Too bad you didn't have some sort of founding document that limits the power of the government. And that is is You the People that rule the country.

Yeah, you'll wake up to the realities of your position, unless, you enjoy the sheepish role you've given yourselves?

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Jiggly
dont have much knowledge about eu stuff... can someone explain what this means? and if its good or bad?

Guessing you are a US citizen?
Imagine our government giving up our sovereignty to the United Nations to create our laws.
That is what the UK government cronies did when they gave up their laws and sovereignty to the EU.....

...and then when the people voted to extract themselves from that deal, the government simply passed the same laws the EU has. So, in effect, they exited in name only, the control goes merrily along.

a reply to: Jiggly

Seekers answer to you, if a little simplistic is essentially correct. The UK held a referendum back in the early Nineteen Seventies on a proposal to join what was then called The Common Market and voted yes. This trading arrangement evolved (by design some say) into the European Union (EU) which is completely different from what We voted to join.

The EU is heading the direction of becoming a Federal entity or a United States Of Europe if you will, and that is not what people feel they agreed to when they voted yes to joining the Common Market.

a reply to: Krakatoa

Quite right I never said you were incorrect. I raised the question as to what type of person finds a nation being screwed over so very funny and satisfying.

originally posted by: justwokeup

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Jiggly
dont have much knowledge about eu stuff... can someone explain what this means? and if its good or bad?

Guessing you are a US citizen?
Imagine our government giving up our sovereignty to the United Nations to create our laws.
That is what the UK government cronies did when they gave up their laws and sovereignty to the EU.....

The people voted to undo that mistake in a direct democracy referendum and elements of the UK political establishment are seeking to nullify that vote through shenanigans.

I get it! As a Yank across the pond I keep a close eye on what is happening over there because I KNOW the same snip is trying to be implemented in my country!
I fully support you guys fighting the EU for your sovereignty!!!!

originally posted by: CulturalResilience
a reply to: Krakatoa

Quite right I never said you were incorrect. I raised the question as to what type of person finds a nation being screwed over so very funny and satisfying.

Again, another attempt at a personal attack? Nice try....I ain't biting.

So, enlighten us all how all this is good stuff and you are not sheep being herded to the EU slaughter house?

It's pretty telling that the only people pretending that our elected representatives in the house of commons should have ultimate power, are those for whom forcing the country to remain within the fabric of the EU is their primary goal.


On a side note, I think we might well see the government lose a confidence vote early in the New year and we will get another General Election shortly after.

a reply to: Krakatoa

Again I never disagreed and never made any of those claims. It is you my friend who is avoiding answering a question.

originally posted by: CulturalResilience
a reply to: Krakatoa

Again I never disagreed and never made any of those claims. It is you my friend who is avoiding answering a question.

Your "questions" are personal attacks and do not have anything to do with the topic, do they? So, keep attempting to divert and pull the thread off it's course.

So, what are you "citizens" going to do about this? You have any plans to change the deadly course your overseers have in store for you?

Again, enlighten is all, please.

a reply to: Krakatoa

I offered you a chance to explain what you find so amusing about the predicament the UK finds itself in. I don't think anyone could see that as a personal attack, but if you choose to see it that way There is nothing I can say that will convince you otherwise.

I have no idea what UK citizens can do about the situation and have not claimed to. I have answered the questions you have asked me as openly as I can. If you cannot find it within yourself to answer my question to you in the same manner, we have nothing more to discuss.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
It's pretty telling that the only people pretending that our elected representatives in the house of commons should have ultimate power, are those for whom forcing the country to remain within the fabric of the EU is their primary goal.


On a side note, I think we might well see the government lose a confidence vote early in the New year and we will get another General Election shortly after.

Who do you want to make the decision, May?

originally posted by: Krakatoa

I am sure others that see this farce for what it is, and how you all were duped.

All? Not all of us voted for Brexit ergo are not being duped now...

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: SprocketUK
It's pretty telling that the only people pretending that our elected representatives in the house of commons should have ultimate power, are those for whom forcing the country to remain within the fabric of the EU is their primary goal.


On a side note, I think we might well see the government lose a confidence vote early in the New year and we will get another General Election shortly after.

Who do you want to make the decision, May?

This isn't about who "makes the decision" and you know it.
It's about diluting Brexit to such an extent that, despite the referendum result we will, to all intents and purposes remain a vassal state of the EU.

I get that you didn't like the way the result went, just as you didn't like the remain side winning in the Scot indy ref.

To me this all just confirms two things.

1,The apparatus of government absolutely does not want us plebes having any meaningful say in how things are run and
2, The country has far too many morons who would rather be well fed slaves than free people.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Krakatoa

I am sure others that see this farce for what it is, and how you all were duped.

All? Not all of us voted for Brexit ergo are not being duped now...

You were duped back in the 70's by being convinced to join the Common Market. That was the first step towards being manipulated by the socialist monster now known as the European Union. That was their plan all along....I remember seeing it then, and I remember the U.S. being "courted" to join as well.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Bye bye may. You won’t be missed.....

If we get Boris you might regret saying that..

Nah I would love to watch boris vs Trump

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: SprocketUK
It's pretty telling that the only people pretending that our elected representatives in the house of commons should have ultimate power, are those for whom forcing the country to remain within the fabric of the EU is their primary goal.


On a side note, I think we might well see the government lose a confidence vote early in the New year and we will get another General Election shortly after.

Who do you want to make the decision, May?

This isn't about who "makes the decision" and you know it.
It's about diluting Brexit to such an extent that, despite the referendum result we will, to all intents and purposes remain a vassal state of the EU.

I get that you didn't like the way the result went, just as you didn't like the remain side winning in the Scot indy ref.

To me this all just confirms two things.

1,The apparatus of government absolutely does not want us plebes having any meaningful say in how things are run and
2, The country has far too many morons who would rather be well fed slaves than free people.

The vote was to leave and we are leaving. Who do you want to decide the terms?