Mercenaries torturing Saudi elites rounded up by new crown prince

Full article title: 'American mercenaries are torturing' Saudi elite rounded up by new crown prince - and billionaire Prince Alwaleed was hung upside down 'just to send a message'

Published by: Daily Mail

Article claims:

Prince Alwaleed was hung upside down "to send a message"
Some Saudi elite have been hung by their feet and beaten
Mercenaries possibly affiliated with Blackwater (firm denies)

This is interesting to me due to the Las Vegas shooting conspiracy theory regarding it being a blown assassination attempt by Alwaleed against King Salman, who may have been the man escorted out of the Tropicana by armed officers.

Daily Mail
Bizarre LV theory

Things sure are getting strange.

Edit: A fuller explanation of the Las Vegas conspiracy theory as it relates to Alwaleed and Salman including a timeline of the Kings of Saudi Arabia
Theory

a reply to: Ameilia

Well, I'll address the beginning first. We have a long history of keeping our interests safe in the middle east by assisting or installing those in power.

The second part I don't see. Why would the Saudis be involved? I understand there is always convenient connections between Saudi Arabia and Israel, but little evidence thus far of collaboration.

a reply to: Ameilia

I read in one report that they were taking them to the hospitals to fix them up only to torture them again. They then decided to set up a medical team at the hotel . This will not end well .

a reply to: Ameilia

isnt dailymail a tabloid?

a reply to: interupt42

no - the " daily fail " is a comic

Apparently, King Salman sees it as an "anti- corruption drive" and is using it to reclaim wealth, offering a break from torture in exchange for upto 70% of their assets.

I almost think I agree, if the methods weren't so barbaric.

www.middleeasteye.net...

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: Ameilia

isnt dailymail a tabloid?

it's illustrated toilet paper.

a reply to: RoScoLaz5

Dale Maily is a pretty good representation of everything the Daily Mail stands for.

a reply to: Ameilia

Source claims mercenaries are from 'Blackwater', a claim also made by Lebanese president


Not sure how credible the source is because "Blackwater" does not even exist.. The company was totally revamped in 2011 and is now called Academi as it was purchased by investors.

If you are making bold claims I would expect even the fundamental information to be concrete and not just putting muddied company names randomly in there..


RA

originally posted by: slider1982
a reply to: Ameilia

Source claims mercenaries are from 'Blackwater', a claim also made by Lebanese president


Not sure how credible the source is because "Blackwater" does not even exist.. The company was totally revamped in 2011 and is now called Academi as it was purchased by investors.

If you are making bold claims I would expect even the fundamental information to be concrete and not just putting muddied company names randomly in there..


RA

First, if you read the article I linked you'd see it states:

'Blackwater' has been named by DailyMail.com's source as the firm involved, and the claim of its presence in Saudi Arabia has also been made on Arabic social media, and by Lebanon's president. The firm's successor, Academi, strongly denies even being in Saudi Arabia and says it does not engage in torture, which it is illegal for any U.S. citizen to commit anywhere in the world.

And second, any claims made are not mine. I am simply sharing information I found personally interesting.

Another thing I find interesting is the absolute lack of reading of source articles by all but one poster here. Nothing to see here, move along.

a reply to: Ameilia

Calm down,


Never said it was you stating it....

From the "article",

The source said that the name 'Blackwater' is being circulated as providing the mercenaries.

My statement was regarding the source and the use of the name Blackwater, even if it has been translated..

They can amend in the article if they want but when the main source seems to be spouting incorrect identification I would have a few questions..



RA

originally posted by: slider1982
a reply to: Ameilia

Calm down,


Never said it was you stating it....

From the "article",

The source said that the name 'Blackwater' is being circulated as providing the mercenaries.

My statement was regarding the source and the use of the name Blackwater, even if it has been translated..

They can amend in the article if they want but when the main source seems to be spouting incorrect identification I would have a few questions..

RA

The source from Lebanon. Not a person reading the same kind of news, or with the same kind of interest, as you or I can read, not a person with the same understanding of how corporations work in the United States.

a reply to: Ameilia

FYI : Bad day for Saudi diplomacy: Lebanese reversal, Syria summit

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Saudi diplomacy is not having a good day — in fact, it’s a double whammy — and the kingdom’s bullish 32-year-old crown prince is seen as the driving force behind the foreign policy blunders.

On one side, Lebanon’s prime minister Saad Hariri, a Saudi ally, on Wednesday walked back his resignation, which had shocked the tiny nation when he broadcast it from the Saudi capital, Riyadh, almost three weeks ago. Some say his resignation was carried out under direct instructions from his Saudi patrons.

Also Wednesday, Saudi Arabia’s main rival, Shiite power Iran, stepped into the limelight by taking part in a summit in Russia on Syria’s future.

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the son of King Salman, is seen as being behind most of Saudi Arabia’s major decisions. MBS, as he is known, is accused in some quarters of being adventurist and impulsive in his foreign policy approaches in Yemen and Lebanon, as well as in the crisis with neighboring Qatar.

Moves by MBS to ramp up tensions with Iran, which backs Lebanon’s Hezbollah, have had little success in actually rolling back Iranian influence in key counties like Iraq and Syria.

At least the (still) Lebanese PM is 'free' now.

As they say, nothing new under the sun. Maybe a few getting the treatment were supporters of the 9/11 attack, we can only hope.

Throughout history royal families go through blood baths when Kings are about to croak and their successor purges the family to sew up their power. It is the cost of being a royal.

a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

At least the (still) Lebanese PM is 'free' now.

Not really. Apparently his 16 year old daughter and 12 year old son are still in Saudi Arabia as leverage.

ETA: Crap, just realized you put "free" in quotation marks. So you probably already knew this. My bad lol.