When Words Become Violence

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

The "scared bond" and trust are forms of communication. And aren't sacred bond and trust superstitious, to use your term? Breaking that is a form of communication and causes psychological injury.

Sorry for not articulating my thoughts properly as I am drinking.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

Sorry for not articulating my thoughts properly as I am drinking.

That's a good idea! Went to the kitchen and turned around from the plagued cook

But instead i can feed myself with that (wine)

a reply to: Deaf Alien

really i have no idea what you were trying to say

i'm drunk now as well

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: amazing

I agree to a point. It's like listening to Fox News every day. At some point you will become brainwashed and unable to distinquish propaganda from Truth. There are also many who are in crisis, mental instability etc, those people are effected far more than a normal person by words. Children and those under 18 I would put in that group also, still developing mentally, emotionally and hormonally. Words(verbal abuse or bullying( can have a negative impact that most of us would not be bothered by.

The words do not become more or less effective as we grow older. They are still the same words, unchanged. It is us that changes.

That's interesting. So if I hear the same words over and over again, I will change. It's been proven, we've known about brainwashing for decades if not centuries. So it would be in our best interest to only listen to words that will change us in positive ways...because we change when we listen to the same words over and over again.

originally posted by: makalit
a reply to: Deaf Alien

really i have no idea what you were trying to say

i'm drunk now as well

LOL. Sometimes I have no idea what I say at all.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

What if a wife told someone to kill her husband and he happened to be killed, she wouldn't be responsible for it?
Damn! Les would make a great defense lawyer!

a reply to: Deaf Alien

lol we r getting too deep for this

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: CreationBro

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: DBCowboy

Words inspire actions.

I think that's what people are afraid of.

Words inspire. Words encourage. Words spur actions.


"Stand up against tyranny!" Just 4 words. Just 4 words that can cause a tyrant fear and harm.

If words of love can sooth, could words of hate, enrage?


It seems as if we are held captive by words. We are conditioned to get "triggered" by words.

As a nation, we are calmed by words. Even lies told softly are met with open arms and smiles.

Words, utterances and constructed noise have become our masters and we their slaves.

We have it all backwards. Words are not agents and are incapable of performing actions. They cannot do anything, let alone "encourage", "incite", "seduce", or otherwise manipulate human beings.

I strongly disagree.

Ever been exposed to the same hateful or traumatizing phrases and words meant to condition and stress your mind, day in and day out? Ive been there. Let me give you a clue, it is not fun, and no, the stress, suffering, and overall impact of this kind of mental torture can be positively life ruining to the point that you cant even feed yourself.

There are plenty of studied and employed psychological conditioning methods by you know who that use speech and visual languages along with symbolism in general to quite literally destroy people. Good for you for being completely immune to that I suppose, but I think casting total blame on people that have been hurt by words at any given point in their life is not only callous, its frighteningly lacking in human compassion.

What about the n word? If a white guy angrily spouts the word at a black person amid a tyrade of other obscenities you expect all people on the receiving end of the situation to smile and move along?

Or how about schizophrenics and the horrendous # they may hear during episodes, sometimes even coming from people around them via coincidence rather than hallucination?

Trust me when i say that words can be weapons and many people are constantly utilizing speech in said manner; i dare say its almost involuntary on their part.

However, i do agree that people need to be more aware and accountable for their feelings regarding words they perceive, much less accountable for their reactions to the sheer presence of a person who says nothing at all...

I have been the subject of bullying and verbal abuse, but in psychology there is personality trait called called hardiness", which I believe can be developed through physical and philosophical training, and applied to early childhood education.

Words cannot be weapons for the simple fact that they are words. I would argue it is this metaphysical absurdity, this metaphor, this superstition, that magnifies stress and hinders our coping with it.

I suppose I understand your viewpoint, and do agree that "hardiness," as you put it, is veritably important in this time.

If you can teach them young, how to fend off reactionary emotions due to external stimuli (in this case verbal abuse), it can be a major asset to one's mental repertoire.

Cheers Les.

Yet another thread from Les Mis about words and free speech.
What sort of adult would emerge from a childhood of being called names? Call your kid a #, a wanker, a twat and a #er - and see what that child turns into.

Remember that 'the pen is mightier than the sword'.

If words have no power explain how Derren Brown gets everyone in a shopping mall to raise their arms up in the air without knowing why.

I wonder what would have happened if he had not brainwashed them to raise their arms - but instead smash the person closest to them in the face?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Yet another thread from Les Mis about words and free speech.
What sort of adult would emerge from a childhood of being called names? Call your kid a #, a wanker, a twat and a #er - and see what that child turns into.

Remember that 'the pen is mightier than the sword'.

The pen is not mightier than the sword. Try it sometime.

Verbal abuse isn’t about words. It’s about manipulation and dominance. Even silence can be verbal abuse. It could be little put downs, jokes, snide comments. Balance, peace, positivity is doubted in those relationship, and stress becomes the norm.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Unfortunately your arguments are about as solid as whatever you left in your "crapper".

Sheer brilliance = the power of word's.

a reply to: hiddenlight

Wanna-be-smart-person-posts-in-response-say-what-like-an-idiot?

"Wanna-be-smart-person-posts-in-response-to-an-idiot?"

I think a Freudian slip on your behalf - fixation on the anal stage.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

With imagery like this; I gladly pay for your writings to reside in my mind.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

It is not the words but the force of sound waves shattering your eardrums.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

If I become upset with someone and shoot them am I responsible for my actions, and if I did harm to myself because of those same words are they ten responsible for them?
When and why do I take on the responsibility?

a reply to: makalit


Not if I have anything to say about it.

Feelings/emotions are overrated and the source of most problems we're facing, not the solution. We need more strength, power, confidence, self-assuredness. Not less. And definitely not MORE emotional kneejerks. We need more intelligence, less emotion. More thinking, less feeling. More action, less "nurture/coloring books for adults type #"

How on Earth could you consider that a benefit to society?

a reply to: Itisnowagain


Words are protected free speech, sorry nothing can be done about it. YOU choose what to do in response to words. As I just wrote, it is over-emotion/over feeling/etc that creates a problem here. Thankfully there is no such thing as "hate speech" in the USA, and only "hate crimes."

Normal people do not over-react to mere words. Normal, regular, common people know words are just words and actions are actions.

If you can't control your own actions, regardless of which words are used, then you don't deserve to be a free citizen in a republic. In fact, if you can't control your own actions, you should likely be on some watch list. Mere words from a talking head shouldn't have any impact you don't want them to have. If they can force action on your behalf, you're a danger.

After all, you always have the option to walk away or put earphones in. Or simply keep your # emotions under control.

a reply to: JBurns

You may be wrong here. If you take a look at peoples reaction to the mass media, you just might find that a very large group of them, seem to, react in a very negative emotional manner to almost anything they are led to feel negatively about.