When Words Become Violence

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: makalit

It doesn't work like that. No one can make you do anything. We may not be able to control ourselves as much as we'd wish, but it is still our own biology, ourselves and no one else, that decides to act. You may not be able to control your heart rate, but it is still your body, your heart, yourself that sets the pace.

But that's not the point of your post, words leading to actions. The point was words affecting your mind in any way in the slightest, such as feeling annoyed upon reading something.

Ed oops i meant your point was words nor their meanings should be able to affect how anyone feels

If someone asks you for a direction and you deliberately tell you to take the back road where you know a bridge on that road is too weak to support his truck and the small bridge ends up collapsing under it's weight, that isn't your responsibility?

a reply to: makalit

But that's not the point of your post, words leading to actions. The point was words affecting your mind in any way in the slightest, such as feeling annoyed upon reading something.

That would be your own thoughts, not the words. Yes your own thoughts can affect you.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

If someone asks you for a direction and you deliberately tell you to take the back road where you know a bridge on that road is too weak to support his truck and the small bridge ends up collapsing under it's weight, that isn't your responsibility?

Society requires a fair amount of trust in order for it to remain civil. I would be responsible for breaking that trust, yes.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: makalit

But that's not the point of your post, words leading to actions. The point was words affecting your mind in any way in the slightest, such as feeling annoyed upon reading something.

That would be your own thoughts, not the words. Yes your own thoughts can affect you.

But your thoughts are based off your own truth-verification process of telling how truthful someone elses words were based on their own thoughts and upon discovering their thoughts true desire is what affects you

So really one leads to the other might as well coin it to their feelings

a reply to: makalit

But your thoughts are based off your own truth-verification process of telling how truthful someone elses words were based on their own thoughts and upon discovering their thoughts true desire is what affects you

So really one leads to the other might as well coin it to their feelings

I don't quite get your point.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I don't get yours either. What was the point in the OP again?

originally posted by: makalit
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I don't get yours either. What was the point in the OP again?

"We are not responsible for how others behave or get hurt due to our words."
That's it in a nutshell.

originally posted by: makalit
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I don't get yours either. What was the point in the OP again?

Words are not violence.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

I could agree with that
i thought the notion was "they cant cause hurt"
Phew glad that's cleared up

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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: makalit
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I don't get yours either. What was the point in the OP again?

Words are not violence.

violence def the unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation by the exhibition of such force.


words don't physically cause one pain? Deal

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a reply to: makalit

Words cannot cause hurt.

Do words hurt?

originally posted by: makalit

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: makalit
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I don't get yours either. What was the point in the OP again?

Words are not violence.

words don't physically cause one pain? Deal

Next

Unless they are too loud. Sometimes they are so loud they shatter your eardrums.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: makalit

Words cannot cause hurt.

Do words hurt?

hurt: cause physical pain or injury to.

can't argue with that.

or else it'd be "Jess you are a cokasljdl" *jessica's arm explodes*


"Hey tim did you check the mail?" *Tim's left foot comes off*


We're talking about instant cause and effect reaction right?

If we're talking longer term then yeah they can cause hurt as def alien said with the bridge

Cause: a person or thing that gives rise to an action, phenomenon, or condition.

a reply to: makalit

All pain is physical pain.

originally posted by: makalit

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: makalit

Words cannot cause hurt.

Do words hurt?

hurt: cause physical pain or injury to.

can't argue with that.

The problem is with the psychological injury. We see that in children who have been verbally abused. Basically Les is saying that the abusive parents are not responsible for that since it's the children's bodies that react to the challenge and stress and that it's the bodies themselves that cause the psychological injury.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: makalit

All pain is physical pain.

That's not what the ghost said after i p*ssed him off

OP started with biblical references, so,..."The abundance of the heart the mouth speaks ". - Matthew 12:34. Words alone are not "violent". No harm, other than hurt "feelings", comes from words.
The OP is right that everyone will have to answer for every idle word. But if it needed said. It's not "hate" or "violent" or "careless" talk/words/ or writings.
What the libs want, is for any moral or civilized communication to stop! So they target it as "hate speach" or "violence". Two of the most repugnant things to a civilized culture.
How about Proverbs 12:15?
For all of world history there has always been a moral code that somethings would offend "public conscience ". What the liberal minds want is an actual "civil law" to "regulate" a free persons conscience, which is the epitome of tyranny.
Your thoughts and expression of those thoughts, must first become "hate", "violent", "uncivilized", or "undesirable". It's called "propaganda".

a reply to: Deaf Alien

The problem is with the psychological injury. We see that in children who have been verbally abused. Basically Les is saying that the abusive parents are not responsible for that since it's the children's bodies that react to the challenge and stress and that it's the bodies themselves that cause the psychological injury.

Correction: it is the words that are not responsible. The parents are responsible for many things, including breaking the sacred bond between parent and child.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Deaf Alien

The problem is with the psychological injury. We see that in children who have been verbally abused. Basically Les is saying that the abusive parents are not responsible for that since it's the children's bodies that react to the challenge and stress and that it's the bodies themselves that cause the psychological injury.

Correction: it is the words that are not responsible. The parents are responsible for many things, including breaking the sacred bond between parent and child.

Just as a gun is not responsible, still the tool.