About the Vegas Killer... newest info

a reply to: Boadicea

Staged and scripted events always do the set-ups ahead of time.

Assuming the shooting didn't come from the room, they would have "set up" the crime scene in advance.

And maybe used sound and visual effects to simulate shots coming from the broken windows.

With all that machine gun firing out the window, there should be some flash marks around the glass and possibly the drapes.

We'll find out if and when we see the "real" crime scene photos.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Boadicea

That's the pic I shared but I redacted the face. Look at the lower part of the shirt...there is what appears to be a sizable blood stain.

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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Take a look at the drapes and windows in that pic.

Looks like daylight.

Sunrise is around 6:30am in LV.

Could be bright lights from outside, but maybe not that high up.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Take a look at the drapes and windows in that pic.

Looks like daylight.

Sunrise is around 6:30am in LV.

Could be bright lights from outside, but maybe not that high up.

You cant seriously be saying you say daylight outside and not darkness?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I see it now -- thank you.

Yes. A central blood stain with several trails leading away from it in multiple directions.

Back to the blood drop trail across his body with the revolver above the head... If the body was shot from behind at close range, it could conceivably go through the body and that could be the exit wound, and the body would fall forward onto his face, so if the shooter grabbed his arm or shoulder from behind to pull his body onto his back, then dropped, the gun by the head...

Would that possibly explain the blood trail across his body?

ETA: Ooops! I might be mistaking creases in the shirt for blood trails. Sorry! I shouldn't do this stuff...

a reply to: xuenchen

I don’t think it’s daylight but looking a little harder it kind of look likes two different size shell casings. I just thought he supposedly used two rifles that use the same ammunition. But I could be wrong about the size of those casings.




The shells around the small sledgehammer

a reply to: Boadicea

Remember this was late Sunday night/Early Monday when it went down - most people in LVPD, except for those on duty
at time were home

Called in lot of extra officers, CSI techs to go to scene.

Most likely came direct from home wearing what ever had on at time

a reply to: Boadicea

So I'm not sure if this was discussed, so many different threads. In the photo of Paddock, twitter snapshot, alive and eyes closed, looks to be having a drink. If you look at his adams apple area, it looks as if there is a mark, like a # 13 tattoo.

Compare that to the body in the room, no mark.

It could be just a weird mark from lighting for the alive photo.

Big thread so sorry if I missed it but I haven't seen it anywhere...have any fellow gamblers come forward with any account of his personality or habits? A Great Clips chick isn't going to cut it for me
My grandma was big into slots and such and all the regulars knew each lther.

originally posted by: pale5218
a reply to: Boadicea

So I'm not sure if this was discussed, so many different threads. In the photo of Paddock, twitter snapshot, alive and eyes closed, looks to be having a drink. If you look at his adams apple area, it looks as if there is a mark, like a # 13 tattoo.

Compare that to the body in the room, no mark.

It could be just a weird mark from lighting for the alive photo.

I read a few accounts that said he was quiet and reserved, stuck to the same video-poker machines, lots of recent talk about prostitutes -- including hotel provided, some accounts say he drank like a fish and other accounts say he never touched alcohol... Back in the very first couple or few pages, someone posted a few quotes. But accounts are seriously all over the place.

a reply to: MotherMayEye
Not a crime scene person---they would have been wearing booties. I tried blowing it up a bit and it certainly looks like the leg of a pant with a seam going up and a shoe with a funky sole. My Beloved has a pair of custom-made shoes with that sort of sole.

I take it no one claims to be the source of the picture.

originally posted by: roadgravel
I take it no one claims to be the source of the picture.

I cannot find an original source for the photos, but the NYT says the police have confirmed they are photos of the crime scene.

Link to NYT

originally posted by: pale5218
a reply to: Boadicea

So I'm not sure if this was discussed, so many different threads. In the photo of Paddock, twitter snapshot, alive and eyes closed, looks to be having a drink. If you look at his adams apple area, it looks as if there is a mark, like a # 13 tattoo.

Compare that to the body in the room, no mark.

It could be just a weird mark from lighting for the alive photo.

This is actually one of the very reasons so many believe that the dead guy isn't Paddock -- because of that #13 tattoo. I searched "Eric Paddock + 13 + tattoo" to see if anyone had asked the brother about it, but I didn't find anything.

Or maybe the "dead" guy isn't really dead at all, and that isn't the real crime scene but a staged scene just for our consumption. Note that these were not released by police, and to the best of my knowledge there has been no official confirmation that they are genuine. Nor any denial. We've basically just accepted them as real.

Also note that there are no other people in the photos -- such as police officers and investigators processing the crime scene. (With the notable exception of a possible shoe and lower leg in one corner). Nor are there any evidence markers for the many many pieces of evidence all over.

From what's been posted, there should also be signs of massive rapid gunfire out the window, such as blackened windows and carpeting, more shells... and the "billowing" curtain at the supposedly broken window could just be stuffed with loosely crumpled newspaper or tissue paper to puff it out like that.

Perhaps nothing is what it seems...

a reply to: diggindirt

I think it was crocs he was wearing...nothing beats crocs and socks if you’re in a hurry

a reply to: Boadicea

I looked at that 13 for awhile after it was mentioned earlier in the thread. I believe it’s just wrinkled skin in that area and in the picture his neck is stretched back so it’s not there, only when he’s looking straight forward is when you can see it.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
...have any fellow gamblers come forward with any account of his personality or habits? A Great Clips chick isn't going to cut it for me
My grandma was big into slots and such and all the regulars knew each lther.

The accounts I've read have been quite contradictory. Some folks said he was quiet and kept to himself, playing the same video poker games repeatedly... perhaps that's more like habitually!... some say he never drank and others say he always had a drink and still more say he enjoyed the company of prostitutes.

In the first few pages of the thread, someone posted quite a bit about some of the claims about his gambling habits.

There are also reports that he was flagged over 200 times for financial transactions (probably over $10,000) and for suspicious activities. But there was no distinction made between the routine financial transactions and the suspicious activity -- nor any description of his "suspicious" activity.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: roadgravel
I take it no one claims to be the source of the picture.

I cannot find an original source for the photos, but the NYT says the police have confirmed they are photos of the crime scene.

Link to NYT

Thank you! I totally missed that -- so much appreciated.

originally posted by: rowdyrich
a reply to: Boadicea

I looked at that 13 for awhile after it was mentioned earlier in the thread. I believe it’s just wrinkled skin in that area and in the picture his neck is stretched back so it’s not there, only when he’s looking straight forward is when you can see it.

Thank you -- I didn't see it either!!!

I didn't look real close at the dead body, but I couldn't see it in the "live" photo either.

originally posted by: diggindirt
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Not a crime scene person---they would have been wearing booties. I tried blowing it up a bit and it certainly looks like the leg of a pant with a seam going up and a shoe with a funky sole. My Beloved has a pair of custom-made shoes with that sort of sole.

Good point about the booties. I saw the same thing you saw -- the seam running up, and the length just a long enough to bunch up at the shoe. My father-in-law used to wear work shoes exactly like that for work -- the sole a little wider right at the widest part of the foot.