Crowder undercover Antifa video

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Gryphon66

He is not a known hoaxer.

In the video you are referncing, Crowder was attacked by a man.

That man was pushed by someone else, but he attacked Crowder who did not shove him.

By your standards, you also do not trust any videos from any msm outlets, which almost all have knowingly lied including on videos.

He is a known fraud and hoaxer, particularly in the area of video production and editing.

I linked evidence to that effect, which included a comment from law enforcement that STATED Crowder's intent to deceive.

As usual, by your standards, as long as you believe something, it's true ... and you are willing to make the most absurd, fallacious arguments to support it. You're gesturing wildly (and bordering on outright deception) by making a specious claim about what I "believe" from "the MSM."

Sounds good in your head and to your fellow rightist zealots though, don't it?

And hey, you made the ATS Front Page ... so you must be right, huh?

Pfft.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: TheScale

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Grambler

What do you expect from a group of America hating anarchists?

These animals are a tool of Soros and his history with the Nazi Brownshirts.

I do not blame your average liberal for these fools.

As the video shows, many main stream people have celebrated this group.

Hopefully this wakes people up to how violent some of them are.

if all the actual video evidence hasent worked up to this point i fear those people will never change their mind even after seeing this video

The fact that the video is highly edited from an individual who is a known video hoaxer doesn't impact that belief at all?

To borrow from a damn fine comedian .. i am hearing "yada yada yada' because you are like a broken record. And unlike a broken clock you're likely to not be as accurate. If Peter Pan was real and he took you there to watch the scene from a safe distance you would argue it didn't happen. Really.

/sarc??

And now, having nothing, you want to try to talk about me. In regard to fraudulent videos presented here by true believers like yourself and others ... in the total ABSENCE of rational, critical analysis ... yeah, I'm sure it sounds to you like repetition. All those troubling, nasty questions that trouble your desire to BEEELIEEEVE.

Always good to hear from another fan, though. But enough about me.

originally posted by: havok
That's fine with me.

It's why I carry.
Idiots are gonna start a war with the wrong people!

I'm slightly paraphrasing here, but...

'People are talking about a new civil war. One side has 8 trillion bullets and heavy training. The other side can't figure out which bathroom to use.'

a reply to: soberbacchus

Let's assume (a mind-numbing leap) that this is not merely another in a line of "expose" videos from Crowder and the nutty right...

What are we seeing here? A small group of kids planning "anarchy and violence." LOL, right.

Now, taking this as certain proof that every nutty claim about the bogey "ANTIFA" is true, every group across the United States is like this group of ten kids or so ... what kind of mind makes that prodigious leap?

A mind consumed by belief, and drowning in confirmation bias. It is indeed sad how some of our friends have changed.

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist

originally posted by: havok
That's fine with me.

It's why I carry.
Idiots are gonna start a war with the wrong people!

I'm slightly paraphrasing here, but...

'People are talking about a new civil war. One side has 8 trillion bullets and heavy training. The other side can't figure out which bathroom to use.'

Well then, your claim totally destroys the assertion of this thread, eh?

Nothing dangerous or violent on "the left" to worry about.

Jesus, do you folks EVER think an argument through?

LOL.

Steven Crowder, a conservative blogger with close ties to Shapiro, published an undercover video Thursday that purported to show far left-wing protesters, known as “Antifa” (for “anti-fascist”), distributing weapons ahead of Shapiro’s speech.

Crowder’s production team presented the video to police moments after it was recorded.

“Police looked at the video, evaluated other information available to them, and determined the individuals did not pose a credible threat that warranted action,” Nelson told Fox 13 News.

University of Utah Police evaluated undercover video of protesters at Ben Shapiro speech; determined no credible threat - Fox Channel 13 - Salt Lake

Sooo ... yeah.

But wait! Wait!

According to court documents, a female protester featured in Crowder’s video was later arrested for aggravated assault during one of the scuffles.

See SEE!!!! Crowder was right! The girl hired to appear in the "video" was later arrested for ... scuffling.

Too bad she forgot her icepick and AK, huh?

a reply to: Grambler

Posting to watch later

2nd

a reply to: Gryphon66

In another thread, you claimed no violent protesters on the side you are obviously biased towards. Funny how your wording has changed over several threads.

One, don't confuse people that choose not to engage with a person with unreasonable and dogmatic views with "winning" a debate. People that see you care more about turning a blind eye to the violence of groups you defend than the overall health of the USA. It is useless to debate a person that sits on ATS to create their own reality. I have learned from ATS you cannot argue with people that want to create their own reality than find real truth, honesty, and solutions.

Two, eyeone should be supportive of people getting off ATS and living real lives. So, don't try to spin people leaving a debate to spend time with family, friends, and pets as "winning" a debate.

If I had something more worth while at the moment, I would not be posting. Makes me wonder about people that post hour after hour, thread after thread, and day after day. Why they would devote some much time to ATS when ten new posts can push one's own comments in to the sands of lost comments and obscurity?

a reply to: neutronflux

I invite you to quote things that I say that you have a problem with ... because in this case, you're lying.

Funny how you make stupid accusations with no backup, eh?

First, don't think I care even a tiny whit what you think about me, my posts or anything else.

Second ... oh wait, there's not a second point.

Ignore my posts if you don't like them, stop ignoring T&C and get on topic.

The video OP wants to praise (along with the rest of the right-wing echo chamber) is BS. Some of us knew it was BS and pointed that out.

Now, the Salt Lake event has passed, and law enforcement is on record that yet another Crowder the Comedian video was meaningless.

Next?

a reply to: Gryphon66

By the way. Why is it when liberals break laws and individuals right to create a reality it's called activism? When a conservative engages in the same activity, they are a fraud.

I would love to see a bunch of commuters march in and disrupt a BLM meeting to protest the disruption of individuals trying to get to work, going about their business, and the use of roads their tax dollars made possible.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I don't have to quote anything. Asking a simple questions will do.

Were their violent liberal protesters in Berkeley?

Was it a false statement when Trump said both sides in Charlottesville acted stupidly.

Bye, got to go clean the garage and help with a party. See ya in the funny pages.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Gryphon66

By the way. Why is it when liberals break laws and individuals right to create a reality it's called activism? When a conservative engages in the same activity, they are a fraud.

I would love to see a bunch of commuters march in and disrupt a BLM meeting to protest the disruption of individuals trying to get to work, going about their business, and the use of roads their tax dollars made possible.

By the way, why is it that so many throw up vague general BS and try to insert political trolling into it?

I would love to see you comment on the actual topic here, rather than evangelizing on your opinions.

The video has been shown to be a heavily-edited piece of political clap-trap that was evaluated and found useless by law enforcement. Got anything on that?

a reply to: Grambler

We all knew this and suspected it all year. Thanks for the video.

a reply to: Gryphon66

The video has been shown to be a heavily-edited piece of political clap-trap that was evaluated and found useless by law enforcement.

Why do you say it was found useless?

Weren't they arrested?

Irregardlesx of the video it is clear who comes masked and carrying weapons, their own feces and urine.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist

originally posted by: havok
That's fine with me.

It's why I carry.
Idiots are gonna start a war with the wrong people!

I'm slightly paraphrasing here, but...

'People are talking about a new civil war. One side has 8 trillion bullets and heavy training. The other side can't figure out which bathroom to use.'

Well then, your claim totally destroys the assertion of this thread, eh?

Nothing dangerous or violent on "the left" to worry about.

Jesus, do you folks EVER think an argument through?

Wow, someone here isn't as bright as he thinks... my paraphrasing was niether arguement, nor serious. Clearly it was satirical. '8 trillion bullets . . . the other can't figure out which bathroom to use'. And it was directly relevant to the post I was replying to which said something about civil war and blah, blah, blah... so I made a joke by paraphrasing an exaggerated meme. JOKE. EXAGGERATED.

Then comes your uber serious, humorless, dolt like reply. :eyeroll:

But seriously...

Of course there is violence on the left, the right and in between. And if we were to experience another civil war, then my guess is it would become a cluster@@@@ like the Syrian civil war. It wouldn't be two-sided right VS left which would render this whole issue and my joke irrelevant. Again, key word; joke. Not a point of debate. Lol, geez

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

It might interest you to know (although then again, if it would, you would know already) that the fact that the Nazi party had socialism in their name, was a deliberate ploy on the part of the far right lunatics who started the party in the first place, to drum up support from the much more numerous left leaners in Germany, who also happened to have most of the workers and factory operatives within their ranks.

The actual socialists in Germany and territories occupied by it, werel murdered by and large, when their usefulness to the far right murderers at the top, ended. Hitler himself despised socialism and communism equally, and only put up with either thing when he thought he could get something out of it, and only for as long as he could get something out of it.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I like Crowder he gives a different view on things and is a good spokesman against progressives and their crazy agenda. The hoax BS is a non story

I don't always agree with him but I think he's healthy for the conversation.

a reply to: neutronflux

From what I've read, such responses are very typical of this poster.

In any case, how can a group planning violence that also happens to be actually documented committing offensive violence (Charlottesville, Berkley, et al) be ignored? Some people are clueless, but hey... it is only against "racists" and "nazis" right? What about Communists? Socialists? Anarchists?

At least the former aren't actively attempting to overthrow our constitution and lawfully installed government (although they admittedly do suck). It takes a very thick skull to bury ones head that deep in leftist propaganda.