cloud storage - somewhat advanced question

I have been trying to find a cloud storage which ran on Linux, FreeBSD, etc... (or Windows) which you could have infrequent files archive to the cloud. The goal is to try and keep costs down on the local storage.

The idea is to build a small business server hosting a variety of services such as opensense, freepbx, freenas and others on a cost effective virtualization platform. Just waiting for Vmware to get around to making Ryzen 1700's work on ESXi. Don't laugh, it'll happen.

Most files that users have are rarely if ever touched. People are just data packrats and I need a way to make it available with a small premium of time for a download.

a reply to: Apollumi

People are just data packrats and I need a way to make it available with a small premium of time for a download.

NSA could probably help...

Yep, they are going to help bring the future I expect. A prophetic one even.

Nice to know I have a fan. Or fans. Which could still be one person I suppose. Or, one person with multiple personalities. A stalker perhaps.

Still interested in a server solution though. Preferably Linux. You can't trust Microsoft.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Apollumi

People are just data packrats and I need a way to make it available with a small premium of time for a download.

NSA could probably help...

Why pay just once to warehouse your data...when you can pay for it every time you touch it?

Oh sure, the cloud storage seems cheap enough, but then there's that little part about the ISP's subsidizing the storage companies (much the same way as Microsoft...errrr...Micro-SHAFT subsidizes hardware manufacturers). The storage is (seemingly) cheap, but the transport isn't. Cha-ching!

The "cloud" has to be one of the greatest and most blatant examples of social engineering of the modern era.

That, and one of the greatest intelligence gathering, monitoring and data concentration concepts...not to mention money making schemes...ever devised by mankind!

ETA...Good luck to you though!

I wouldn't store my files unless they were encrypted before a cloud service ever touched them. Which is why I've read so much on block level cloud backups vs file level. So I can store an encrypted volume in the cloud and only replicate the changed blocks vs the entire file.

Yeah, I was the Systems Admin for an ISP. Bandwidth is cheap. Big money maker with little maint. But what is old is new new. Client/Server.

Me, I just know consciousness wins. It never matters what's best. Only what people are aware of as their current truth. In this case customers. Hence asking for input.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Why pay just once to warehouse your data...when you can pay for it every time you touch it?

Oh sure, the cloud storage seems cheap enough, but then there's that little part about the ISP's subsidizing the storage companies (much the same way as Microsoft...errrr...Micro-SHAFT subsidizes hardware manufacturers). The storage is (seemingly) cheap, but the transport isn't. Cha-ching!

The "cloud" has to be one of the greatest and most blatant examples of social engineering of the modern era.

That, and one of the greatest intelligence gathering, monitoring and data concentration concepts...not to mention money making schemes...ever devised by mankind!

ETA...Good luck to you though!

Im no expert but im sure amazon web services could help you out with just about any of that.

I found my PC streaming stuff to Amazon Wiretapping Services. Something to do with port 1900 and SSDP.

Why not get your own personal cloud server? On NewEgg, they are as little as £150

a reply to: Apollumi

I think your claim of needing faster download is a valid point. The problem is they (controllers) don't want us having that. Thats why they took down Mega-upload, remember? Anything that helps store information in the public realm is frowned upon.


How can they erase / rewrite the past if they don't have complete control over the narrative?

on mobile and way past my bed time, all I'll keep this short.

don't wait for esxi.
vmware is only solvent because they were there first- they have the existing infrastructure in banks, governments, and health care... but they are behind the leading players.
you want to talk cloud, look at Amazon. they don't touch vmware, never they refuse to pay for the inferior software at ibm pricing.

other than that, maybe I'll check in tomorrow.
I have zero interest in cloud storage, but I suspect Microsoft has beaten you there with "one drive."

Meh, ESXi for now. Actually I planned on running ESXi 6.5 nested (for ease of backup and deployment). There is a slight performance hit but something I know from being a net admin in one large gov facility and various other businesses is that people just deal with what they have to deal with.

The only bad thing is when there is substantial delay in an application. Only then do they start slamming the buttons repeatedly and complaining. So Joe Schmoe business owner riding me like a two dollar donkey over his 1gig porn video download isn't desired.

I"ve dealt with syncing data in a few enterprises and people just get mad when it takes too long. Block level file sync would address that to some degree. Now dropbox does block level file sync. Which is an option. But I was hoping google drive file stream would support this in the future. Not a fan of google's devilish ways but it rings with the consciousness of the masses.

I just wasn't sure I had explored all of the wise options. Hence the posting. I know there are many technical people on these forums.

originally posted by: lordcomac
on mobile and way past my bed time, all I'll keep this short.

don't wait for esxi.
vmware is only solvent because they were there first- they have the existing infrastructure in banks, governments, and health care... but they are behind the leading players.
you want to talk cloud, look at Amazon. they don't touch vmware, never they refuse to pay for the inferior software at ibm pricing.

other than that, maybe I'll check in tomorrow.
I have zero interest in cloud storage, but I suspect Microsoft has beaten you there with "one drive."

a reply to: Apollumi

Dropbox ... just a suggestion as it is the one I know to be multi-platform.

10$/month/Tb

originally posted by: intrptr

NSA could probably help...

Meh, they can't capture everything yet. And even though competent people exist most govt employees are 9-5 mouth breathers. Now what I witnessed personally made me very concerned about hacking the govt. It is probably very easy to do. Security and Network people abound that spout key terminology without knowledge and their supervisors are even worse. Rarely do you meet somebody passionate and competent running govt equipment.

But... Big but.. That doesn't mean they didn't compromise somebody good and use them to do dirty work.

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: Apollumi

Dropbox ... just a suggestion as it is the one I know to be multi-platform.

10$/month/Tb

 

originally posted by: intrptr

NSA could probably help...

I have been using these guys software for years. Long before "Cloud" was in the general public's vocab.

RBackup

Load the server software onto a Windows server with the amount of storage you need. Then install the client software on your windows clients and off it goes. It will push only the changes or new files so you don't have to upload everything all the time. Encryption is done before the files even hit the web. Works over radio links, modem, anything you can like two computers with. You can rebrand it as your own and use it to offer your own cloud service. That's what I have done for years. I suppose the downside is that it is Windows only.

I'll read up on that, thanks. Something to add to the aresenal.

Rant follows:

Too bad Windows is the licensing nightmare from hell. Per seat, per server, no you can't do that virtual without a special lincense, etc, etc, etc.... I'm an MCSE since Windows NT days and I loathe Bill and Co. Linux and BSD is much more common these days but still hasn't made it to the desktop. In the Enterprise it's often MS Exchange server, Microsoft Office, and Microsoft OS (mostly because of Office) sooooo.

So I was wanting to do Linux file services that synced files with an old file modification date out and to do that block level. Something akin to "rsync". Encryption and block level processor time involved may just be more than what many "cloud" providers want to deal with though. Just like encrypting VM's in ESXi. Although I was reading that may be possible soon.