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Because most of the groups that activly lobby, protest, and commit violence are fundemental christian groups. Ralph Reed is a case in point.
I would like someone to answer this for me.
Originally posted by deesw
I would like someone to answer this for me.
Dude, first there is no need or abortion. Second, it starts at home. Teach our children abstinence, not safe sex, as well as teach them to take responsibility for their own actions. Stop passing the buck, pointing blame, and start taking responsibility for our own actions.
Originally posted by Reaganwasourgreatest
To the "observer" who made some great points, glad to see someone is thinking out there:
First of all, I am a sinner. My sins maybe greater than your own even. I will not elaborate but trust me as raised hell and hurt many people.
Second, the solution: It really is simple. There is a demand for infants. I propose the potential parents paying these young women for their time and suffering. Yeh, I know selling infants (what it really is) sounds bad but butchering sounds and is worse. Let the free market determine the price. Like any good liberterian a like capitalism. You all (y'all hensforth) thought I was Republican huh? Think about it, drug free, exceptionally nurished women will demand a higher price. Inspiration to those addicts to clean up. Right now it is nearly a 50 bil industry with adoptions both foriegn and domestic. Why not let these women who are not ready to have kids enjoy the windfall. If they choose to crank out babies, Like all you say, "It is her body". So her teeth fall out and her bones are brittle, she will be driving the BMW and living in a mansion. We can all kiss her...........
Originally posted by radardog
I went through all of that trouble for an informed post and no one replies to it. *whines*
Originally posted by deesw
Whereas most of the people for abortion are anti-Christian.
Theoretically I can take a genetic sample from a human put it in my cloning machine and create a new person. Does this mean that because my cells have the possibilty for life destroying them is murder? We are greater then the sum of our parts.
Originally posted by FredT
This has been a rather dull debate for the following reasons:
For all of the religious dogma spouted out NONE of you have answered any of the points RANT made in his previous statements. :shk: no denials, no facts, nothing. Are you conceding the point with your silence?
Having been pro choice certainly all of my adult life,
and having been a clinic escort at planned parenthood, and having faced the violent pro life protesters head on, I am amazed that once you take away their religious arguments, and that is not too hard to do as evidenced by this and other threads, they simply are like actors without a script. Befuddled and lost, they fall back on the same dogma and rhetoric that they have been brainwashed by. Its kind of like light and roaches scurry away to the dark lest ye be contaminated by the facts
One other point to ponder. Which side has committed acts of terrorism and murder? By that definition, Operation Rescue is a terrorist organization. Funny, the "Pro Life" crowd has participated and actively sanctioned these crimes :shk:
OK Fred, am I going to get thrown out of the nest now?
Originally posted by FredT
OK Fred, am I going to get thrown out of the nest now?
No way, If I wanted adoptee clones I would have said so If you did not voice your opinion you would be tossed in a fraction of a second
I will try to reposnd to your post in a bit, but by your definition of life, would not a cancer tumor fit the descrition? Its a rapidly dividing mass of cells. It is alive, it grows, it needs the same fundemental things that a fetus needs does it not?
SHould we begin to firebomb cancer clinics and the like or protest?
Now I generalized alot of Pro Life supporters in my post, however most that I have met being in the streets or at the Republican national convention etc seem to speak from the same playbook. Just about the only difference I have seen to be hones are those who think ANY (violence and murder) means are okay and those who do not