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originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: mobiusmale
I never said there would be no reaction. I even said it would be people's freedom of choice to do something or not.
Doesn't mean you should punish someone for stating an opinion. And by punish, I don't mean not listening to them, stop watching their movies or whatever. I mean punish like you suggested by taking away smokes and alcohol from Bourdain.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: mobiusmale
I think you are taking the comments of the few to pain the entirety of the whole. The vast majority of the Left do not believe it is ok, nor fashionable, to call for violence.
What Bourdain said is not a call for violence. What he said is no different than saying he would serve Trump and Kim a turd sandwich. It was a smart ass comment to impart his dislike for both men. He did not call for violence or poisoning of the leaders.
That's not what he did here.
Again, I think you are making this out to be much more than it really is.
originally posted by: RomeByFire
Oh look, the "we should defend Nazism," crowd didn't take long to remind us that this man shouldn't have any Constitutional rights.
ATS is a joke
originally posted by: mobiusmale
originally posted by: RomeByFire
Oh look, the "we should defend Nazism," crowd didn't take long to remind us that this man shouldn't have any Constitutional rights.
ATS is a joke
He is absolutely entitled to his Constitutional Rights!
And all other Americans (and the citizens of other free nations) have the Constitutional Right to express their reactions to what he chose to say while exercising those rights.
And...um...who said "we should defend Nazism"?
originally posted by: mobiusmale
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: mobiusmale
I think you are taking the comments of the few to pain the entirety of the whole. The vast majority of the Left do not believe it is ok, nor fashionable, to call for violence.
I don't think that there can be any question that the use of violent imagery, rhetoric and actions...directed toward Trump, and his supporters...has been commonplace since Nov. 8.
I would certainly hope (and I believe) that "the vast majority of the left" do not advocate violence. But the sentiment, to be violent toward anyone/anything to the right of center (or even not far enough left) is increasingly being expressed - both verbally and physically.
What Bourdain said is not a call for violence. What he said is no different than saying he would serve Trump and Kim a turd sandwich. It was a smart ass comment to impart his dislike for both men. He did not call for violence or poisoning of the leaders.
Again, we agree it was an attempt at humour. So was holding up a simulated severed head of the President. Ha ha.
So was Colbert doing a Nazi salute during a monologue. Hardy har har.
Not quite so funny was the play in Central Park which depicted women and African Americans stabbing the President.
That's not what he did here.
Again, I think you are making this out to be much more than it really is.
This is only an example of what is now considered to be "ok" in American cultural expression - so long as it is only directed at Donald Trump (or anyone associated with him).
I don't think that there can be any question that the use of violent imagery, rhetoric and actions...directed toward Trump, and his supporters...has been commonplace since Nov. 8.
I would certainly hope (and I believe) that "the vast majority of the left" do not advocate violence. But the sentiment, to be violent toward anyone/anything to the right of center (or even not far enough left) is increasingly being expressed - both verbally and physically.
Again, we agree it was an attempt at humour. So was holding up a simulated severed head of the President. Ha ha. So was Colbert doing a Nazi salute during a monologue. Hardy har har. Not quite so funny was the play in Central Park which depicted women and African Americans stabbing the President.
This is only an example of what is now considered to be "ok" in American cultural expression - so long as it is only directed at Donald Trump (or anyone associated with him).