Antifa Leaders Upset Media Focused On Their Violence

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: MysticPearl

Yeah, we do, if you are unable to think that there are people who will fight for individual liberation from authoritarian systems, you remain ignorant, keep at it

So you will trade one system for another worse system really bright there. you do realize that anarchy leads to feudalism. feudalism leads to dictatorships and so on.

The Illusion of freedom vs the reality of the truth. You are fighting to become a slave to another master.

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Krakatoa

Actually, no, I mean, you believing that it is some "Deep State" "(((Gloablist)))" "Soro's" conspiracy only keeps you distracted, as long as you keep thinking there are leaders and whining about it on a message board, it keeps the attention off of us, and not just those that stand around and chant, but those of us who are fighting for our individual liberation

Stop it, I cannot laugh anymore tonight. I guess the pigs think that the trough keeps getting filled with nothing expected in return. Oh, look a truck, they are going to take us for a nice ride now.....oh more slop??!

Enjoy your slop, future bacon.

Don't focus on the violence? So the media is supposed to ignore it? Violence used by any organization is simply not acceptable and it should be called-out! Peaceful protestors should be denouncing those who become violent even when they're protesting the same cause.

a reply to: xuenchen


The amuses me. So they don't have any leadership, but do they have an official spokes person? Is this person it?


I find it highly odd that they have a press conference to make an issue about this only after states are declaring them a domestic terrorist group.

***WHILE I'M AT IT***

XAnarchistX:
Are you claiming to know the group well enough to speak for them? If so, could you possibly explain their end game?

a reply to: Kettu

No "Proof" but some people will believe anything that fits their narrative while denouncing others as "Fake News"

What if someone came on Television and said they were the leader of the Nazi's and claims that Trump is funding them, would they believe it because a so-called "Leader" said it?

a reply to: Guyfriday

The end goal of "Antifa" is stopping the rise of fascism/neo-fascism and its supporters, apologist, and enablers.

But, like I have been saying, "Antifa" is a decentralized Free association group of individuals that synthesis for certain actions, the majority are anarchists, but there are Marxists, Leninists, Maoists, and Socialist... and now recently other people who just join in

Individually we have our own goals and 'end game' and when we synthesise we fight as individuals (anarchists, M/L/M's, socialist etc)

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Kettu

No "Proof" but some people will believe anything that fits their narrative while denouncing others as "Fake News"

What if someone came on Television and said they were the leader of the Nazi's and claims that Trump is funding them, would they believe it because a so-called "Leader" said it?

If there's no leadership then how do you know where to gather, what to bring or what you stand for? Is it your position that Antifa is a "hive mind"?

Sounds more like a Laissez-faire type of leadership really. How much in-fighting and struggle for control is there? To not have anyone in a group that feels as if they should lead would create a chaotic environment of complete oppression. Do those that speak on behalf of Antifa, as in the video, get reprimanded or beaten down because of doing so? What happens if someone, as the person in the video seems to have done, steps up and proclaims themself a leader and others continue to follow?

It would seem that an uncoordinated group such as Antifa, would have as much turnover as the restaurant industry as far as "membership".

Either way....its not working and will likely end in anyone associated with Antifa being regarded as a domestic terrorist at some point in the near future.

I look at Antifa as mostly uneducated utopian dreamers that have a misguided anger problem at their own lives, outwardly and incorrectly applying that anger to anything else they can so they don't look inward.

If truly leaderless then they are the ultimate in irony of misguided youth. Still funny to watch though. Hypocrisy at its finest.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

VASA..did ya notice it? HE skipped responding to my post. WOnder why? Maybe I hit ze nail on ze head? Oh of course he will respond now since Im callling it out right? OR will It not take the bait? Either way Its a small win for me. Psychology is so fun at times isnt it?

a reply to: yuppa

Wait...What? what post did I miss? I'll gladly respond

a reply to: Vasa Croe

There is obviously communique's and communication between individuals that want to associate with certain actions, sometimes we don't know anyone else, sometimes affinity groups will join, it is completely "free associated"

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Vasa Croe

VASA..did ya notice it? HE skipped responding to my post. WOnder why? Maybe I hit ze nail on ze head? Oh of course he will respond now since Im callling it out right? OR will It not take the bait? Either way Its a small win for me. Psychology is so fun at times isnt it?

It really makes me wonder if these people ever studied anything valuable in school. It's like they are just watching SLC Punk over and over again and not really learning anything....or skipping the ending.

Wondering if James Merendino isn't an Antifa leader at this point.

They should have a group viewing of the Breakfast Club....

a reply to: xuenchen
But the msn is fake news .
So that means reports of antifa violence is not what they say it is right?

I mean why should we believe the media about any of this?

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: xuenchen
But the msn is fake news .
So that means reports of antifa violence is not what they say it is right?

I mean why should we believe the media about any of this?

Sure.

The whole thing could be an act.

They do it all the time in movies and TV shows.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: Vasa Croe

VASA..did ya notice it? HE skipped responding to my post. WOnder why? Maybe I hit ze nail on ze head? Oh of course he will respond now since Im callling it out right? OR will It not take the bait? Either way Its a small win for me. Psychology is so fun at times isnt it?

It really makes me wonder if these people ever studied anything valuable in school. It's like they are just watching SLC Punk over and over again and not really learning anything....or skipping the ending.

Wondering if James Merendino isn't an Antifa leader at this point.

They should have a group viewing of the Breakfast Club....

OH i agreee. its sad in a way how much they think they know when its easy for the rest of us to point out eventually they will become slaves to the ones promoting this crap. The people who run with them are all Known anti freedom and suppressive people. Ones mans freedom is another mans slavery i guess eh?

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Vasa Croe

There is obviously communique's and communication between individuals that want to associate with certain actions, sometimes we don't know anyone else, sometimes affinity groups will join, it is completely "free associated"

So what prevents you from being "pied piper'd"? If all it takes is some random that says they're associated with the group to get hundreds to follow, who's to prevent a REALLY BAD person from organizing a fake march and just blowing everyone to hell when they get there? And if truly leaderless, then why would you even go in the first place? Maybe you should relabel as an autarchist, or Libertarian or something.

My guess is Antifa using "anarchy", which is historically a radical left position, is attempting to push a Libertarian party into the mix on a larger scale than has been seen.

The use of Antifa didn't really start in the US until 2016, as far as its new meaning taken on as a political ideal for "anarchists"....suggesting it was actually created by a political party on the left in order to make a radical side seem way out of touch, thereby forcing a less radical Libertarian party to gain political stronghold among those that support Antifa....mostly youth.

The ploy in itself is pretty smart, but the outcome will fail as much as the Russia story has for the DNC.

In reality, you are simply working for and towards yet another form of oppression and dictatorship though you can't quite see it yet.

Let's see who comes to the forefront in the next big election and how they are reacting to Antifa, or rather how much support they are seeing from Antifa.

Bunch of militant SJW cowards. Yeah, keep all your faces covered some more...

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: loam
"...One long line of love."

omg.

If ANTIFA thinks they have a PR problem now, wait till next month !!

Oooooooh.. what did I miss? What's next month bring?

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
Wasn't there some Antifa on ATS claiming Antifa is leaderless? What the hell is this then? They have leaders, they have organization, they are targetable by law enforcement. Go get em.

What do expect? Antifa are liars and violent criminals. You don't really expect them to tell the truth?

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: MysticPearl

Yeah, we do, if you are unable to think that there are people who will fight for individual liberation from authoritarian systems, you remain ignorant, keep at it

I think you're a terrorist and a threat to our way of life.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

"Antifa" didn't start in 2016, that was when the Media decided they could exploit it as a "Trump-Vs-Left" narrative

Anti-Fascism has always existed as a synthesis of individuals, anarchists, communist, socialist, they are not a "Political Party" i mean separate we (anarchists) fight with Socialist and Communist all the time...