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Turano said he’s never been a political person. He has only voted once in his life, and that was for President Trump. Turano said he disagrees with the president on immigration and women’s rights issues.
Turano said he used to think all antifa “hated our guts” and intended to protest violently. When Turano came to Portland on June 4, however, he said a petite Jewish counter-protester came up to him and asked, “Does my life matter?”
“It just made me feel bad,” Turano said. “I hadn’t really been paying attention; I just thought we were surrounded by all these people who hated us. But I met some people that seemed so nice.” Turano added that in his state of mind when he attended the Berkeley protest, he thought “these [antifa] people hate America.”
Turano said as a single, working father, he did not have time to sit behind a computer screen and follow the alt-right. When Turano began to see swastikas at these protests and racial slurs on the internet, however, he came to understand how the “other side” saw “patriots.”
“Racist ain’t too far from the truth,” Turano declared.
Being Based Spartan gave Turano a rush, but he said he now feels the patriot movement only “loved me because they thought I was violent and I looked threatening and intimidating.” Turano added, “People emailed me to tell me I helped these ‘idiot’ groups grow, and I’m responsible for making it a family idea. I made a horrible mistake. I don’t like bullies.”
I'm gonna to be honest. Most patriots — most patriots, I want to clarify this — most patriots are not Nazis. But you know what, when we stand next to 'em, who are we? And I think we're collaborators of hate and I don't need another man — today's message is I can stand alone and be an American and be for Trump and I don't need to stand next to Nazis, where I can feel secure. I don't need to stand behind a line. and these people — like, I can say most of those people are probably great people — but how great are you when the guy next to you is a Nazi and you won't tell him to leave.
Like, my family, like my whole family is Latino — on my wife's side — my kids and all my friends and you know they hated on a black today. It's a representation of the United States — a whole family man — and I don't see why they think it's so disrespectful that — I just — I love Trump. And last time they told me I was wrong. I stood on the wrong side. This time they wouldn't even let me in. They said, "oh he can't be in there." So now I'm on this side, and I'm still loving Trump.
Robert C. Byrd, a Democrat, was a recruiter for the Klan while in his 20s and 30s, rising to the title of Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops of his local chapter. After leaving the group, Byrd spoke in favor of the Klan during his early political career. Though he claimed to have left the organization in 1943, Byrd wrote a letter in 1946 to the group's Imperial Wizard stating "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Deny Arrogance
Robert Byrd was certainly in the Klan. He was never a Grand Wizard though. Do you have any proof that when Robert Byrd quit and disavowed the Klan half a century ago, he wasn't sincere?
You don't believe that people can change?
More importantly, what's your inaccurate meme got to do with the topic? Obama isn't President. Robert Byrd has been dead for what, 7 years? Hell, this thread was even about Trump and you feel the need to derail it with BS.
Lmao.
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For the 2003–2004 session, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP)[64] rated Byrd's voting record as being 100% in line with the N.A.A.C.P.'s position on the thirty-three Senate bills they evaluated. Sixteen other senators received that rating. In June 2005, Byrd proposed an additional $10,000,000 in federal funding for the Martin Luther King, Jr. National Memorial in Washington, D.C., remarking that, "With the passage of time, we have come to learn that his Dream was the American Dream, and few ever expressed it more eloquently."[65] Upon news of his death, the NAACP released a statement praising Byrd, saying that he "became a champion for civil rights and liberties" and "came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda".[66]
some Oath Keepers sounding the alarm, they can push out the neo-Nazis who have insidiously infiltrated Trump support.
originally posted by: XAnarchistX
He was at Berkeley yelling as many slurs as he said others were using, he kept saying he wanted to "Kill Antifa" using homophobic and racists slurs, and he has white Pride tattooed on his arms, regardless of what he thinks now, he can't play the innocent victim.
Also, Rise Above Movement is a neo-nazi fight club group, they were at Berkeley, San Bernadino, and some other events here in Southern California, they also went to Charlottesville
“Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation,” stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. “Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.
“Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation,” stated Hilary O. Shelton, Director of the NAACP Washington Bureau and Senior Vice President for Advocacy and Policy.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Deny Arrogance
Liar.
“Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation,” stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. “Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country.
“Senator Byrd came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda, doing well on the NAACP Annual Civil Rights Report Card. He stood with us on many issues of crucial importance to our members from the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act, the historic health care legislation of 2010 and his support for the Hate Crimes Prevention legislation,” stated Hilary O. Shelton, Director of the NAACP Washington Bureau and Senior Vice President for Advocacy and Policy.
The Hill
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Anathros
Perhaps it's your opinion that "the Democrats" are duping Black Americans?
What your argument, are Blacks not bright enough to understand that they're "being duped"???
Think it through.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Anathros
There arent enough neo Nazis and racist groups to infiltrate anything, let alone do so insidiously.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Teikiatsu
That's disingenuous. There are no Trump supporters saying that white nationalists/supremacists (using WSN for short from now on) are 'good guys.' Seriously. Do you have any standard American citizen on record saying WSN are good guys? Please present them.
Sure there are. This video was uploaded by Mark F. He was a part of #LatinosWithTrump, a group which was controlled by Tim Clark and through him, Dan Scavino. The title of the video is what?
Trump Supporter Knock Out Antifa in Berkeley
Go ahead and give it a watch. That guy he's calling a "Trump supporter" is Nathan Damigo, the founder of Identity Evropa. Or perhaps you'd like this video, entitled:
Battle of Berkeley III: Patriots Defeat #Antifa
Pay attention at 1:32. That's Proud Boy, Kyle "Based Stickman" Chapman, along with Robert Boman of DIY Division, Nathan Damigo from Identity Evropa with some of their assorted followers.
Go ahead and watch that whole video. You'll see Chapman speaking (it's not very good) and later, alt-right social media celeb, Brittany Pettibone. Notice that nobody is actually stopping them from speaking. Notice too that they have militia guards. I can't make out the badges. After they're done all their speaking, then they head out for the fighting because essentially, it's just one big happy fight club operating under false pretense.
See, what's happened here is that Trump supporters have been getting played by prominent figures in the MAGA crowd on social media who have used the support for Trump to build their own brands. They spin these videos as "based patriot Trump supporters protecting free speech!" but in reality, it's a hodgepodge of extremists which is lousy with white nationalists and neo-Nazis.
I'm not blaming Trump supporters for not knowing. I think most Trump supporters actually abhor neo-Nazis but when they're being lied to, they end up inadvertently supporting these assholes. You'll be happy to know that there is currently a whole lot of infighting in this group now because McInnes (who's a Canadian btw), who has/had a column in the alt-right Taki's mag (a gig Richard Spencer got him), who *was* pals with UTR organizer Kessler (a Proud Boy himself):
... Cernovich and others have outgrown their allies and now see them as a liability. It's pretty funny to watch on Twitter. Here's Hunter Wallace (Brad Griffin) of League of the South (they're actually a neo-Confederate group — their flag is the black X on the white background) expressing his angst at being jilted:
Posobiec there is who I was posting about here.
Your examples from 2017 started with non-WSN speakers early on, like Milo Yiannopoulos and Lauren Southern. After the initial riots from students and antifa, *then* the WSN showed up to fight, but they were not invited. They invited themselves, just like antifa.
I'm tired. They didn't invite themselves anymore than they invited themselves to UTR. Lauren Southern is another opportunistic Canadian who is looking to stir up # to further her brand. She's also an Identitarian. Here's an interesting read at the (very far-right) Liberty Conservative you might want to look over:
Generation Identity And The Alt-Right: A Comparison
Furthermore, Identity Evropa possesses the taint of white nationalism that is so anathema to American culture whereas Generation Identity’s relationship to that particular political hot potato is much more complex. Nathan Damigo and his associates are unabashedly in favor of what they call a “white ethnostate” or “separatism.” On the other hand, members of the European Identitarian movement do not frame their political goals in such terms. They characterize their mission as preventing the “displacement” of “native” European peoples from their homelands. In short, Generation Identity deploys language often used by Native American tribes in North America. American groups such as Identity Evropa have a more difficult time asserting the “ownership” of North America by white persons in comparison because Europe was not settled in the same manner as North America. Moreover, Generation Identity focuses more on maintaining specific instances of European culture, such as “French-ness” or “Austrian-ness” rather than simply “whiteness.”
Anyway, I'll stop back in the morning and comment some more. I have a problem with Antifa shutting down speakers with violence. I have a problem with political violence period. But this whole narrative of "based patriots" rising up in defense of Trump supporters against the "terrorist" Antifa is a whole lot of bull#. And threads like this only demonstrate the blinders are still on when it comes to one side.