Another Rotherham Style Child Abuse Ring Uncovered

a reply to: eletheia

I'm agreeing with you, but the racism card is already in full play, but I am just pointing out that racism is a two way street.

These victims were preyed on because of their race/colour and it really does not get much more racist than that.

ONE of the men involved in a sex party ring where it was suspected under-age girls were fed drugs and abused once said: “All white women are good for one thing, for men like me to f*** and use as trash.”

The jury at Newcastle Crown Court heard Badrul Hussain made the extraordinary outburst to a ticket collector on the Tyne and Wear Metro.

www.thesun.co.uk...

Do you think if a group of predominantly white pedophiles raped girls and one of them said this about girls of color that these people would still be saying we shouldn't focus on race?

Of course not, it would be receiving wall to wall coverage, black "leaders" would be all over television decrying it, etc.

But in this situation, to even mention these pedophiles ethnicity is considered racsim.

a reply to: Grambler

Im surprised that this wasn't used in court as evidence of racially aggravated assault or abuse of a minor

that is shocking that they weren't charged for racial sexual assault.

This isnt the first time i've heard about groups of men off of asian origin who abuse children in the UK

Child abuse in any way shape or form is pure evil. No matter who it is committed by irrespective of race or creed ect. I mean one only has to look at the case of SIR jimmy savile, who for over forty years was abusing and raping children all over the UK. Or the Catholic priest`s that are for ever being charged and let off with their crimes here and abroad, all over the planet. Politicals? pizzagate? SIR jimmy savile was a very close and good friend to near enough every prime minister for all of those forty years and according to Lady Diana was mentor to Prince Charles. I don`t know the answers to this problem which we are facing but some thing has to be done. It does not help when the leaders of all churches, mosques or Temples ect seem to turn a blind eye to these crimes. They are supposed to be the moral guides in life. Yet they all appear to condone it. In this case these criminals had done nothing wrong, in their eyes. Because they are told by their religious leaders that we are kafra = lower than the crap you scrape off your foot. We have no rights under their islamic laws, if anything they have done good work for their religion of peace. Some thing has got to change, for the sake of all our children.
Personally I blame the spirit in the sky gang be it Muslim, Jewish Catholic or which ever other denomination, that preach`s their brain dead propaganda on the masses. I would castrate and deport these criminals back to where ever they came from. And if it is a Brit then life in a very hard prison would not be enough.

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Grambler

Im surprised that this wasn't used in court as evidence of racially aggravated assault or abuse of a minor

that is shocking that they weren't charged for racial sexual assault.

I don't think that there is such an offence in law at present (and perhaps there ought to be). So it's a choice between calling the crime "a racially-aggravated assault" or "child sex abuse" - and the latter is the more serious, so that's what the prosecution went for.

It's easy to see why social workers feel too brow beaten to do their jobs when everyone and their dog spits out the word racist all the damn time.


And people scratch their heads at the rise of the right, wondering about these kids' values...They have been shown that the values of the left are anti their survival and pro their persecutors. Quite obvious really.

Trying to conflate the acts of individual sickos with this organised, culturally harmonised group abuse of kids is just another example of people who would rather a thousand young kids get raped than one person looks at them as though they said something un pc.
Virtue signalling at it's worst and most poisonous.

a reply to: EartOccupant

Should be all public records? Unless I am mistaken, but true

a reply to: Tulpa

When the bubble eventually bursts its going to get really ugly.

This would appear to be the plan. Self culling of the herd.

a reply to: Gramblerwhat i see is mainstream doesn't want to call it for what it is . pakastani or muslim turns into asians well yes they come from continent of asia by you don't call americans or mexicans ,or canadians north americans. the politically correct agenda of doublespeak is out of control. grooming gangs wtf they are rape gangs targeting teens and children and need to be hunted down and stopped where ever they pop up,

Following the outcome of this case, I have seen reported (MSN) the retired director of public prosecutions, the former head of the Race Equality quango and a couple of prominent Imams have publically stated the rapists should have been prosecuted for racially aggravated attacks. In addition to this, the retired prosecutor has said anyone that was aware of their actions and failed to notify the authorities should be prosecuted for collusion and Trevor Phillips (race equality guy) said the narrative that described these heinous people as Asian, should be changed.

The exclusive targeting of white children is racist and I see no reason why the rapists were not charged with both child rape and with racially aggravated assault. Mr Phillips spoke out on behalf of Asians when he said the rapists were all Muslim and they need to be labelled as such. He said the largest 'Asian' population in the UK is drawn from Hindu and Sikh backgrounds and it was an insult to them that political correctness means the reports always refer to 'Asian' when many of the attackers were not Asian but middle eastern.

As to the PC labelling being black, white or Asian, perhaps the narrative should be changed to black, white and brown. Not at all sure why officialdom are so reluctant to mention the word brown but there we go.

I also think there should be an element of restorative justice in these type cases. I think the convicted incarcerated child rapists should be made to work in the prison and every penny they earn paid to the victims. Furthermore, I think the families of any convicted child rapist should have no access to any form of state support.

Article from the Mail on Sunday .... interestingly written by an Asian man ....

Will my Asian community NOW end the vile misogyny behind the latest child sex gang scandal? No, too many think they still have A LICENCE TO ABUSE writes NAZIR AFZAL

It is a pattern we simply cannot ignore. In no fewer than 16 British towns and cities, grooming gangs have been prosecuted for raping young females since 2011, culminating last week in the conviction of 17 men and one woman at Newcastle Crown Court.
With the exception of two cases the perpetrators were from South Asian backgrounds. All but three victims were young white girls.

As the Chief Crown Prosecutor who brought the cases against the Rochdale grooming gang in 2012, I've come to know a disturbing amount about this crime.
And I'm sorry to say that while courts have changed a lot to make justice more accessible to victims, I don't believe that attitudes have changed for the better. If anything, they're getting worse.

Will South Asian communities condemn these atrocities – and take the necessary action? I'm not convinced. As for wider society, we must start to understand what drives this abuse if we want to stop it. Child grooming is happening under our noses – everywhere. At bus stops, in takeaways, on street corners. But we walk past, because we don't see what's happening. And neither do we see the attitudes driving it.
In particular, the appalling misogyny fuelling the growth of grooming gangs has barely been discussed.

I recall a conversation I once had at an Asian wedding where a young man told me, 'men are like gold and women are like silk'. I thought he was going to tell me something profound but shuddered as he explained that, 'if you drop gold in mud you can wipe off the mud, but if you drop silk in mud it's tarnished for ever.'


This encapsulates the hardline bias against women that has become part of the South Asian mindset. It demonstrates how Asian child abusers see teenage girls on our streets. Partly, they hate them because they're free. Girls should be pure and locked up away from temptation. When teenage girls are on the streets or drinking alcohol, the men see them as tarnished goods, available for sex. It gives them a licence to abuse.

This viewpoint wasn't always so prevalent. As a young man, I saw women in Afghanistan going to university in skirts. I marvelled at the Taj Mahal, built by Mughal Emperor Shah Jahan in memory of his wife. And as a Muslim I knew the Prophet himself said that your mother is three times more important than your father.

But over the past few decades ultraconservatism has swept across South Asia, and the killing of unborn babies because they are female is on the rise. There are huge parties to celebrate a boy's first birthday but nothing to mark a girl's. Men can get away with anything and women have become second-class citizens.

Women of all faiths are suffering as a result. In India there have been some of the most sickening cases imaginable. In urban areas with a shortage of toilets, women are terrified of walking to communal lavatory blocks at night because so many of them are being attacked and raped.
The same sickening attitudes towards women in Pakistan and India are now held by growing numbers in British towns and cities – with white girls seen as the lowest of the low.

For those involved in grooming, the level of control is scary and their wives (they're nearly always married) suffer badly. During one case I asked a woman if she had suspected her husband was involved in grooming. 'Yes,' she said, 'but what could I do? He controlled me, left me with the kids and no money. He made sure I was powerless.' The wife of Rochdale grooming gang leader Shabir Ahmed killed herself.

A number of commentators have argued that it was racism that motivated the Newcastle grooming gang, as they saw the girls as 'white trash'. I won't deny that racism can be an issue. But violent misogyny is the underlying cause – and the bravery of girls to put these men in Newcastle behind bars, as they have in other cases across the UK, is remarkable.

But stamping down on the crime is one thing. What are we doing to tackle the barbaric attitudes behind it?
The fight to protect girls from growing numbers of abusers is bigger and tougher than most imagine.
I sat in court during the Rochdale trial and even some of the victims didn't fully understand what had happened to them. One girl kept referring to her 'boyfriend' raping – and we had to remind the jury that we did not believe him to be her boyfriend.

I know there will be some in my community who talk of being scapegoated by the Newcastle case. There will be talk of Islamophobia and an anti-Muslim conspiracy. Some will even try to play down the crimes committed. It happens every time.
I've spent a lifetime specialising in dealing with uncomfortable cases and I know we can't flinch from difficult conversations. The Asian community cannot go back to victimhood. We need to challenge a misogynistic culture that's getting out of control and we need to talk about the predators in our community. Then we can finally put a stop to young girls' lives being needlessly ruined.

He says it as it is....

He would possibly make a better London Mayor than Sadiq Khan the present one.