Absolute Proof Jesus Christ is God

a reply to: StandingTallForChrist


First off 100% proof is just laughable and obviously click bait..

Not even religious people would agree you have 100% proof of jack $HAT..


1) actually I thought Jesus was from the line of David.. and was born fairly wealthy..

At least that is a hotly debated topic..


Also there are a dozen other philosophers who are still rendered to this day that predate Jesus..

Point busted..

2) Jesus isn't even close to the most influential person in history..

Alexander, half the roman emporers, Napoleon, ghengis kahn..

Maybe ..he is the most influential none military/state leader..

No now that I think about it .. like all the big scientists beat his influence.. isacc newton, the wright brothers.. Henry ford..

Busted..


3) according to the Bible that didn't get really ANY testable claims right..

Anything that we could still look at today and test has been debunked..

Creation story and timeline, every little piece of Noah's arc and the flood myth..

Even the thought of haveing to return to your birth place for a roman census..


4) BWAHAHAHA its called a dream and/or hallucination..


Your the one obviously trolling with your headline...

It should have read "here is why I believe."

Rather than the nonsense you put..

a reply to: watchitburn

I don't know..

The Christian definition of truth is "I really feel like it is." Right??

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: TheErlenmeyerFlask
a reply to: trollz

3 or 4 AD is the going idea. Jesus was a toddler when Herod issued a decree killing all Jewish babies. Works of Josephus.

Yeah, that's the point. For someone who would have been arguably the most important person to ever exist, nobody actually knows when he was born, not even the day or month. People can only come up with various guesses because there's no actual record of it happening.

Duh, it was the day the big tree get's decorated and the fat guy comes down the chimney. (I thought everyone knew that)
Or the time when the rabbit hides the eggs, but you get the idea, right around there.

a reply to: StandingTallForChrist

Trolling...

You literally put 100% proof in the title of a religious thread and ADMITTEDLY didn't even provide ANY new information...

That is literally trolling 101...

And like the most common , most lazy form..

You haven't even had any of the othe religious crowd back you.. most likely because of you obviously being the troll...

He's trolling..

I kinda thought it after the title.. but his consequent replays have confirmed it imho..

He wasn't trying to have a conversation about a new idea he had..


He was just trying to bait atheists into calling him an idiot... for whatever reason people get off on that.

a reply to: StandingTallForChrist

I can feel the hatred seething through your teeth as you type your response. Where does that hatred come from? yes I am talking to you.

I was only asking questions,


Let me quote you said what you said in your Op about being arrogant.

when I was an arrogant atheist.

So now you are a arrogant Christian?

I mean isn't it slightly arrogant to post whats quoted above.

Yes, I am talking to you.

The year is 2017.

Now that is some mind blowing stuff right there.


SERIOUSLY

ITS 2017

Whats next, man walked on the moon.

GTFO

a reply to: JoshuaCox

He was just trying to bait atheists into calling him an idiot...

Funny thing is the way they came across the first person to call them idiot would most likely be a Christian

Jesus never claimed to be God, he even asked why someone called him good when (in his own words) "only God is good". If he were God he would have never questioned why he was called good.

The current calender we use was put in place in 1587 by the Catholic Church who had Jesus in mind when creating it so that point is moot too.

a reply to: StandingTallForChrist

Jesus is no more God than you are your father.

Can we please have this moved to skunk works? There is no proof this is anything more.

a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth

For same reason most of us who have had experiences speak of them, to us they are proof. Absolute proof. It's very frustrating to us that we can't translate them to you or you would understand beyond a shadow of a doubt.

It is real. He is real.

There is no question, not anymore, not after that experience.

a reply to: tigertatzen

Zactly! Well said.

Here is quote to that same sentiment:

“You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. They know it's going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kinds of dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt.”


― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

There is a difference between being 'a god' and being 'the god'

A very important distinction to study and get clear in ones mind . The Bible does make the distinction between the God and those other gods who are just as real as the creator God .

originally posted by: eisegesis
Most people don't know who or what Jesus was, even those that "worship" him. I suggest you read, Arcane Schools by John Yarker. Still not definitive, but it will without a doubt cause you to pause and reevaluate your position.

Here is your motivation:

There exists in Thibet and India a "Secret Doctrine" which is of unquestioned antiquity, and of which analogical confirmation may be found in the writings of the ancient Philosophers. This doctrine allows for the existence in extreme antiquity of a sunken continent in the Pacific ocean, of which the present islands are mountain tops, and in the Atlantic ocean of seven islands, the last of which sank beneath the waters about the period which we have assigned for a great cataclysm, or 12,500 years ago.

The quote you gave describes what's sometimes called The Book of Dzyan. Madame Blavatsky wrote her entire "Secret Doctrine" based on this concept.

If you're familiar with Blavatsky and theosophy, does Yarker's book differ on her stated views? I'm gonna check out the book regardless, but I'd like to know the approach.

...I know. And the chubbchubbs are his Angels!

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: StandingTallForChrist

Jesus is no more God than you are your father.

Hey hey,

The OP could be the real life character that the movie Predestination with Ethan Hawke was about.

So they could be their .... um I wont say anymore, just in case I spoil something for someone.

a reply to: ketsuko

There have been plenty of people who have experienced Mohammad, Brahma, Buddha etc. through visions and other experiences and usually who they see or hear is the idol r their particular culture reveres.

If you're Muslim you'll see Mohammad, if you're Buddhist you'll see Buddha etc. It's usually a product of the environment you grow up in. "God" shows himself through all religions in one way or another.

a reply to: StandingTallForChrist

In response to #1
Not sure if it's been mentioned already, but not all countries or religions use the Gregorian calendar. Many countries only use the Gregorian calendar for business, administrative, & govt purposes (called the "civil calendar"), while maintaining their traditional calendars for social purposes.

For example, today is August 8th, 2017 according to the Gregorian calendar. But today is also the 16th day of the month Dhul Qadah in the year 1438, according to the Islamic calendar. Today is also the 16th day of the month "Av" in the year 5777, according to the Jewish calendar. And today is either the 2nd or 3rd day of the month Nahase in the year 2009 in Ethiopia (this link converts it as the 2nd while another I found converts it as the 3rd). You might want to note that Ethiopia is also a Christian majority country, yet they don't officially follow the Gregorian calendar. Then you have the Chinese calendar and the Persian calendar (Iran) which I don't even know how to explain. lol

In response to #2
I respect the Prophet Jesus & I acknowledge that he might be the most famous named figure now. But judging by actions, I'd say his popularity is only superficial. People rarely seem to actually following his teachings.

In response to #3
Where's the proof here? I'm not sure you know what that word means.

In response to #4
Sorry but anecdotal stories don't equal proof. Don't get me wrong, I have no doubts about God's existence. But I also have no proof for anyone other than myself. Hence why I won't make threads claiming to have proof of Him.

I have one question for you though. If you think the Prophet Jesus is God Himself, does this mean you also think he's the one who created the Universe, created the Prophet Adam & Eve, warned the Prophet Noah of the flood, gave miracles to multiple Prophets like Moses, supposedly ordered the Israelites to slay numerous enemy tribes in the Old Testament, etc?

originally posted by: StandingTallForChrist
Nothing I am about to write is an original thought, of that I am sure. With 100+ Billion people who have ever lived, perhaps no thought is truely unique.

Here is the absolute proof that Jesus Christ IS GOD.

Jesus was a poor carpenter who grew up in a predominantly illiterate and tiny corner of the world. He lived just 33 years, the last few making claims of his Godhood. Which ultimately lead to his death. He was not a general, or dictator or ruler or king or president... he was a simple and humble servant.

1) What year is it? 2017. It is 2017 to EVERYONE on Earth. Every check or document you sign atheist or theist is dated 2017. That is precisely 2017 years since the birth of Jesus Christ. This fact must REALLY get the goats of all those Atheists who have to acknowledge the year in which we live... maybe they could file a federal lawsuit!

2) Jesus Christ is the single most influential figure in all of human history. His name is known across all races, creeds, ethnicities, geographic boundaries and even time itself. Julius Caesar who? Genghis Khan what? Hitler? Stalin? Lincoln? Washington? Minor figures in history compared to the giant that is Jesus Christ.

3) He defeated death and rose three days later. He even restored others to life. Proof of his resurrection lies directly in the behavior of his followers, who were so terrified of the Roman Guard that they denied Jesus while he lived to save their own skin. But after he rose again and walked among them, they TRULY believed and most went to a gruesome death without ever denying the Messiah again. The bones of Jesus will never be discovered.

4) He appeared to me supernaturally 11 years ago, when I was an arrogant atheist. The light shined so brightly, yet there was no source... it was a room, with no windows, no light source... the most beautiful sight... but I digress. I understand my personal experience is no proof to you... but I never claimed to provide YOU with proof... only to present proof.

Jesus Christ lives and He IS God.

Which is why the entire world turns on a timetable marked by his birth... most of whom HATE him and deny him at every turn.
He is coming, there is still time to change your heart.

Now... my atheist friends... commence the trolling

Absolute proof?
Absolute rubbish!

And absolutely ignorant.


Every Christian that have just a grain of knowledge of Christianity KNOWS that canonically Jesus was not born in the year we know call 1, and that no scriptures claim to give date his birth.

No matter how we calculate His birth - be it by star measurements, be it by the census or by any other historical event in the Bible - we come up with something else than Dionysius did.

And as others have said our calendar is far from the only one. That is just so ignorant to claim that it is. Wow.


And what would it prove anyway?
What would any of it prove?

You have no need for 'atheist trolling' - any Christian worth their salt can dismiss you and will tell you that the truth of the Trinity relies on faith, not some nonsense proof.

(Jeez...)

RE: "Absolute Proof Jesus Christ is God"

Jesus is a man's name and a false idol. There is only one all-powerful all-loving God and His name is God. Do not be confused by false idol imitations. God is God. And God is His name.