It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: AMPTAH
originally posted by: xuenchen
The U.S. isn't their country. That's how it works.
Maybe not. But, who says this land is the "U.S." ?
Have you never read the scriptures?
Mary said to Jesus, "Whom are your disciples like?"
He said, "They are like children who have settled in a field which is not theirs. When the owners of the field come, they will say, 'Let us have back our field.' They (will) undress in their presence in order to let them have back their field and to give it back to them. -- The Gospel of Thomas #21
So, before pointing fingers at others and claiming they are illegals, one should look in the mirror and ask "Who Am I?".
originally posted by: Arnie123
Thats not a valid business concept. We hire CITIZENS.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: missed_gear
Overnight? Your increasing cost substancially.
Especially in west cost labor pools where min wage is 15 an hour + ssi, workmans comp, medical, state and local etc...
When you pay an illegal often times it's the base pay which is half of the actual cost of an employee.
It would cause a measurable increase in cost to legitimize industries with over 25 percent of the workforce having no regulations or taxes.
Also lots of people not willing to get on 150 degree roofs for peanuts, or spend a day in the fields.
(Reuters) - Where have all the carpenters gone? Home builders across the United States are scratching their heads for an answer as they struggle to assemble crews to keep up with growing demand.
originally posted by: missed_gear
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: missed_gear
Overnight? Your increasing cost substancially.
To your point. The answer is no.
I understand California has issues, if I ran my check book they way California does, I would be in a disastrous and horrible position.
We are training people under skilled crafts men and women for less, and they will make well over 15 an hour when skilled.
Especially in west cost labor pools where min wage is 15 an hour + ssi, workmans comp, medical, state and local etc...
When you pay an illegal often times it's the base pay which is half of the actual cost of an employee.
I am fully aware of the costs of labor.
It would cause a measurable increase in cost to legitimize industries with over 25 percent of the workforce having no regulations or taxes.
Again, I disagree. You are quoting farming percentages (and that is a maybe). Illegals are 5.9% of the labor force.
Also lots of people not willing to get on 150 degree roofs for peanuts, or spend a day in the fields.
General labor is always cheap, period. Roofers make more than peanuts. I know know it you know it.
Legal migrant workers work cheap and don't make it sound as if they are slaves. They are not.
(Reuters) - Where have all the carpenters gone? Home builders across the United States are scratching their heads for an answer as they struggle to assemble crews to keep up with growing demand.
Skilled labor is there.
mg
originally posted by: AMPTAH
originally posted by: luthier
Unless the real plan is for the private prisons to build units on US soil (via taxpayers ) the courts are going to have to be expanded.