CIA agent, Malcom Howard: "I brought down WTC 7"

originally posted by: thesaneone
What I don't understand is that we have no problem calling out most news as being fake but when a so called story comes out about 911 all of a sudden a rag no better then the national enquirer is truth no questions asked??

there is a full court press on making legitimate news organizations sound like fake ones, Russia has it sewn up, and Poland has made independent news, now answer to the government with their new right-wing president.....it's a concerted effort to de-legitimize the "western democracies" by Russia, and other state-sponsored actors...it has been going on in different parts of Europe for a while now.
more Americans are buying into the conspiracy bulls**t and are separating into 'tribes".....and now there is trump and his gang not even bothering to address the concerns OF ALL CITIZENS rather than a select minority.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: thesaneone
What I don't understand is that we have no problem calling out most news as being fake but when a so called story comes out about 911 all of a sudden a rag no better then the national enquirer is truth no questions asked??

there is a full court press on making legitimate news organizations sound like fake ones,

As an indie who used to be a D,, I think the press has went bat s**t crazy and proven to be liars.

Our news channels talking heads are starting to look like Baghdad Bob where he was having US tanks behind him while he was lying about US tanks attacking. The spin is so bad and the ratings are dropping so fast they may run out of sponsors other than Soro's propaganda machine.

originally posted by: jimmyx
there is a full court press on making legitimate news organizations sound like fake ones

They are the fake ones, and they always have been longer than you've been alive.

No?

You're "High Information", right? Well dig into these details, show me where I'm wrong:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Or are you just quick to spew generalizations but too cowardly to take on a real debate?

originally posted by: thesaneone
I'm surprised that this hasn't been tossed in the hoax bin yet.

Why ?

I thought it goes in the hoax bin when proven a hoax, not just because it comes from a source that has published hoaxes previously, after all if that is the criteria no-one would be able to quote any source !

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The link is an entire thread dedicated to the writer of OP's article. I will let you guys pass your own judgment.

a reply to: prevenge

I thought Silverstein already admitted that..

They are the fake ones, and they always have been longer than you've been alive.

The ones that support Trump as just as fake, it's just convenient to ignore that little fact, as long as they are kissing Trump's butt. Why anyone would think Fox is somehow more "legit" than CNN boggles the mind. I take all those news sources with pretty big grains of salt.

The smoking gun is how level the building is falling down. And office fires never get hot enough to melt or cause instability with steel. WTC7 was a demolition

I was watching a video of a 4 story wood framed building that caught on fire, it only collapsed once it was fully engulfed in flames on all 360 degrees and that is WOOD, the flames coming out of WTC7 were minimal in fact there were people walking around the lobby after the collapse of WTC. And it was a steel framed building, anybody that has watched any high-rises on fire knows something isn't right with the optics on this.

I KNEW IT! WOO-HOO!

originally posted by: Jacobu12
And office fires never get hot enough to melt or cause instability with steel.

So then I guess that you're better trained than the fire science engineers that have written the building codes that require insulation on steel framed buildings.

I mean, you must be in order to make such a strong claim.

Hmmmm, or could it be that you're talking out of your arse?

In a court of law, and if this is all legitimate, a deathbed confession is weighed heavier than actual evidence. They can also be used to reopen investigations.

I just read the snopes article about this, and while the source is probably crap or whatever, them talking about 9/11 being "comprehensively debunked" was hilarious. I called in my wife so we could laugh and point.

At this point only a 'special' kind of person would legitimately believe 9/11 has been debunked. There is no explanation for Tower 7. None. The building was a block away, and "heavy debris" taking down a whole building is beyond ridiculous. It'd be one thing if the towers, like you know, fell sideways and took it out, but no.... The "debris" fell precisely and divinely strategically between two buildings to take out the magic number 7.

Hilarious.

originally posted by: Flesh699
In a court of law, and if this is all legitimate, a deathbed confession is weighed heavier than actual evidence.

Gee, I sense you're just pulling this out of your nether regions.

Hilarious.

Agreed.

Your statement is hilarious.

a reply to: Flesh699

There is no explanation for Tower 7.

Did you read the entire explanation from official sources or conspiracy web sites?

The building was a block away, and "heavy debris" taking down a whole building is beyond ridiculous.

You are 100% correct. Debris did not do it.
Fire did !
Once again did you bother to read official sources?

The same goes for WTC 1 & 2. The planes did not take them down.
Fire did.

a reply to: Jacobu12

And office fires never get hot enough to melt or cause instability with steel.

So what grade of steel was used in the construction of the towers?

What is the melting point of that steel?

At what temperature does the steel start to loose its strength?

What is the hottest office fire ever recorded?

You actually asked me at what temp the steel would buckle or loose its strength in another thread.

If you don't know and cannot look up this easy information then how can say what I quoted above?

a reply to: Jacobu12

And office fires never get hot enough to melt or cause instability with steel.

Your ignorance of the physical world around you should embarrass you.
Atlanta had an overpass collapse from fire this year.
Europe had a college hi rise partially collapse from a vending machine fire.
Fire fighters will not enter a burning Walmart type structure.

You need to get out into the real world.

If you still think cia ]had nothing to do with this event you are aa brainwashed sheep. They couldn't let a bunch of inbred sand people be responsible for hijacking all those planes, so they held their hands and put them where they were wanted remotely took over the planes, it was a missile from an Israeli sub that hit pentagon, and the Patriotstory from flight 93 is fiction.

a reply to: flyingdutchman2112

Look, I will be the first to tell you that 9/11 was an inside job. Doesn't take much deduction to realize that those kinds of crashes will destroy towers and allow passports to survive. But why call them inbred sand people when you can bring up a dozen facts that proves the OS false?

WTC 7 was a 47 story building. I'm sire theres another building of similar size and structure in the USA getting ready to be demo. How informative would it be to recreate the conditions on 911 on another building. And don't we finally have computers good enough to simulate the factors involved as well?

originally posted by: MrBig2430

originally posted by: Jacobu12
And office fires never get hot enough to melt or cause instability with steel.

So then I guess that you're better trained than the fire science engineers that have written the building codes that require insulation on steel framed buildings.

I mean, you must be in order to make such a strong claim.

Hmmmm, or could it be that you're talking out of your arse?

If anybody is talking out of their arse, it is NIST