New study claims mysterious Planet Nine exists & is altering the orbits of objects beyond Neptune.

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The Outer Solar System Origins Survey released last month examined eight patches of the sky from 2013-2017, revealing the presence of more than 800 TNOs – but, after identifying eight TNOs that would be useful to test for a ninth planet, the researchers found no evidence of tight clustering.

This caused some to argue that biases in the data may be to blame for its supposed existence.

In the new study, the researchers from Complutense University of Madrid used a different approach for search for the mysterious planet, and they say it’s less susceptible to observation bias.

The team studied objects known as extreme trans-Neptunian objects, which are located at a distance more than 150 AU and never cross Neptune’s orbit.

The researchers found that the nodes of 28 ETNOs investigated in the study are clustered in particular zones.

They also found a correlation between the position of the nodes, and what’s known as inclination, a parameter for defining their orientation in space.

But, the researchers say, there should be no correlation between these factors.

‘Assuming that the ENTOs are dynamically similar to the comets that interact with Jupiter, we interpret these results as signs of the presence of a planet that is actively interacting with them in a range of distances from 300 to 400 AU,’ said de la Fuente Marcos.
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New study claims mysterious Planet Nine DOES exist and is altering the orbits of objects beyond Neptune

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Here is an abstract of the new research study.

C. de la Fuente Marcos
R. de la Fuente Marcos
Mon Not R Astron Soc Lett slx106.
DOI:
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Published:
26 June 2017

Abstract

It is a well-known fact that the presence of a massive perturber interacting with a population of minor bodies following very eccentric orbits can strongly affect the distribution of their nodal distances. The details of this process have been explored numerically and its outcome confirmed observationally in the case of Jupiter, where a bimodal distribution of nodal distances of comets has been found. Here, we show evidence for a possible bimodal distribution of the nodal distances of the extreme trans-Neptunian objects (ETNOs) in the form of a previously unnoticed correlation between nodal distance and orbital inclination. This proposed correlation is unlikely to be the result of observational bias as data for both large semimajor axis Centaurs and comets fit well into the pattern found for the ETNOs, and all these populations are subjected to similar background perturbations when moving well away from the influence of the giant planets. The correlation found is better understood if these objects tend to avoid a putative planet with semimajor axis in the range 300–400 au.

Evidence for a possible bimodal distribution of the nodal distances of the extreme trans-Neptunian objects: avoiding a trans-Plutonian planet or just plain bias?

This new research, and the evidence for planet 9 has nothing to do with other research which recently found evidence stating that there is a Mars sized planet around 40 AU in the Kuiper belt. Planet 10/X would be located around 300-400 AU from our Sun, and it would be around 10 times Earth's mass.

In previous research studies thans-Neptunian ofjects of the Kuiper belt were studied, which led some scientists to believe that there could be bias in the data. In the new study the Spanish astronomers found that the nodes of 28 ETNOs are clustered in certain regions. These ETNOs have an average distance from the sun of 150 AU, which would discard any possible bias in the data.

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The idea of a rogue black hole that follows at a great distance from the Sun is fancy to me, but id imagine there'd be supernova remnants thatd show this.

From what Ive read, the idea is that a massive rocky planet is lurking out there.

That.....or the death star.

originally posted by: CreationBro
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The idea of a rogue black hole that follows at a great distance from the Sun is fancy to me, but id imagine there'd be supernova remnants thatd show this.

From what Ive read, the idea is that a massive rocky planet is lurking out there.

That.....or the death star.

Wait, where did I ever mentioned "the idea of a rogue black hole"? in fact, where in the links provided is a "rogue black holed" mentioned?

Please re-read the excerpts and links provided.

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Oh I know, just my own ramblings lol.

I did however read your linked articles. What is clear is that something is out there with enough gravitational impact to affect those outer objects. Excited to find out.

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The only way we can imagine to conquer space is a multi-generational ship in the size of a planet with gravity on board, built in space with the mining resources from many planets, if such a thing waltzes through spacetime it would interact with space just as this thing, who says it's orbiting in a huge radius? For all we know it could travel a straight line.

Or it's the ripples in spacetime from a wormhole generator?
Just throwing it out there.
(Just fyi, my avatar says "writer")

I like it how all the replies to this thread so far have nothing to do with what ElectricUniverse actually posted.

Nice find, EU, this seems to add to the pool of evidence that Planet Nine does exist. Unless astronomers find a flaw in this new technique as well.

So many unknowns, so much to learn!

P.S. would be nice to see some academic sources for this, rather than freaking Daily Mail.

originally posted by: wildespace
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So many unknowns, so much to learn!

Yes, despite all the troubles we are facing, it is good to know at least that there are some exciting discoveries to be made.

originally posted by: wildespace
P.S. would be nice to see some academic sources for this, rather than freaking Daily Mail.

I actually posted in the op an abstract to the research study made by the Spaniard astronomers.

Here is the link again.

Evidence for a possible bimodal distribution of the nodal distances of the extreme trans-Neptunian objects: avoiding a trans-Plutonian planet or just plain bias?

This is one standing wave galactic node, a solar system node. Northwest southeast = spring-fall cycle influence (lion-man). The solstice itself is from the adjacent node. An echo from its core. The backwards waveforms that got life jacked up.

All just particles riding waves. And their echos.

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Great, another reply that has nothing to do with EU's thread topic.