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originally posted by: TerryDon79
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: NowanKenubi
How does this impact the society as a whole? How does this affect you?
As I have stated earlier the baby will know it's gender at an early age, so this whole debate is moot. It's not like the parents are going to tell it that "it" is neither a boy nor a girl. As the OP states they let the baby "decide".
The parents are saying the child isn't a boy or a girl, yet. That's kind of the point.
originally posted by: imitator
I'm thinking high energy physics has gone to far! We need to shut down all particle accelerators. I was ok with the Mandela effect changing past events, but letting a child identity it's gender is in 'The Twilight Zone' territory. The next thing you know will be children who identify as animals.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw
Gender dysphoria is EXTREMELY rare so you can relax.
originally posted by: imitator
I'm thinking high energy physics has gone to far! We need to shut down all particle accelerators. I was ok with the Mandela effect changing past events, but letting a child identity it's gender is in 'The Twilight Zone' territory. The next thing you know will be children who identify as animals.
originally posted by: AkontaDarkpaw
originally posted by: imitator
I'm thinking high energy physics has gone to far! We need to shut down all particle accelerators. I was ok with the Mandela effect changing past events, but letting a child identity it's gender is in 'The Twilight Zone' territory. The next thing you know will be children who identify as animals.
We already have that.
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Abysha
What does that have to do with what I typed?
We're not talking names and nicknames. It's gender (or a lack of defined gender).
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Deaf Alien
What if some other parents decide that they want their childs species to be undefined?
Or other parents want to say their date and time of birth is undefined?
This has now opened that door to that type of possibility.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Abysha
By law, the child would have no gender.
Are you suggesting that we just judge gender by what they look like? Doesn't that go against the whole gender identification?
How? There are basic observations of respecting another person's dignity. Judge by how they present themselves or just ask.
I don't know about you but if somebody say's "My name is Robert but please call me Bob", I'm not going to reply "Nope, I'm gonna keep calling you Robert". Because I'm a decent person not going out of my way to annoy people.
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Abysha
What does that have to do with what I typed?
We're not talking names and nicknames. It's gender (or a lack of defined gender).
Because you brought up "identifying" people.
Again, why do we need gender on it in the first place?
originally posted by: Tulpa
a reply to: AkontaDarkpaw
You could be onto something...
Aleister Crowley and Aiwas.
Kalergi - Coudenhove.
New World Order.
Future society will be very different to what we see today and maybe not too good.
Bill Clinton, George Bush and Tony Blair were among some of the winners of the Charlemagne Award.
Its a conspiracy theorists 1984 - Brave New World and Matrix all rolled into one.
David Icke is not as crazy as people say.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Deaf Alien
What if some other parents decide that they want their childs species to be undefined?
Or other parents want to say their date and time of birth is undefined?
This has now opened that door to that type of possibility.
A good example of a slippery slope fallacy.
originally posted by: Tulpa
a reply to: violet
I couldn't say. Most drivers licenses are photo card ones with those mini chip things in these days.
I don't drive. Lost my license years ago and when my ban expired I'd already ruined my back so can't even if I wanted.
Its the most common ID and causes me trouble not having one sometimes.
Eligible adults (19 and older) can get a BC Services Card when they enrol in MSP or when they renew their driver’s licence or BCID. Children and youth under 19 do not need to renew enrolment in MSP and, if they don't have one already, are automatically issued their first Non-Photo BC Services Card when an adult on the account contacts Health Insurance BC or obtains their own BC Services Card.
originally posted by: c2oden
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Abysha
By law, the child would have no gender.
Are you suggesting that we just judge gender by what they look like? Doesn't that go against the whole gender identification?
How? There are basic observations of respecting another person's dignity. Judge by how they present themselves or just ask.
I don't know about you but if somebody say's "My name is Robert but please call me Bob", I'm not going to reply "Nope, I'm gonna keep calling you Robert". Because I'm a decent person not going out of my way to annoy people.
What if you have been calling him Robert for the last 15 years and he suddenly wants to be called Bob but you keep calling him Robert because he's always been Robert?
Are you a bad person because you call him Robert?
originally posted by: c2oden
originally posted by: Abysha
originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Abysha
By law, the child would have no gender.
Are you suggesting that we just judge gender by what they look like? Doesn't that go against the whole gender identification?
How? There are basic observations of respecting another person's dignity. Judge by how they present themselves or just ask.
I don't know about you but if somebody say's "My name is Robert but please call me Bob", I'm not going to reply "Nope, I'm gonna keep calling you Robert". Because I'm a decent person not going out of my way to annoy people.
What if you have been calling him Robert for the last 15 years and he suddenly wants to be called Bob but you keep calling him Robert because he's always been Robert?
Are you a bad person because you call him Robert?