Vaccinations... "Your children should be safe" argument

originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: deadlyhope

I really hope they develop a cure for Autism, that is a vaccine.

Anti-Vaxers are a crazy bunch.

~Tenth

That would drive the anti-vaxxer's heads yo explode. Lol

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Charlyboy
a reply to: tothetenthpower

and you are ignorant and poorly informed.

I don't always agree with Tenth, but he is NOT ignorant nor poorly informed.

Certainly you would be aware of this if you were well informed.

Maybe being ignorant isn't as bad and knowing something for fact that is simply not true.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.

— Leo Tolstoy

Just throwing out a possibility.

Worth the time.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

Great video. Glyphosate, the gift that keeps on giving until you are demented or dead. But but but ... our government says it is safe for us. They would never lie to us would they? The medical community would certainly be honoring their Hippocratic Oath instead of being beholden to money and prestige, right?

So instead of the anti-vaxxers possessing their opinions due to a possible autistic link, the autistic children would have been better served if their parents were anti-vaxxers to begin with? Now that is irony.

a reply to: projectvxn
a reply to: research100


do you even Google bro?



1. Outbreak of Measles Among Persons With Prior Evidence of Immunity, New York City, 2011 cid.oxfordjournals.org...

2. Detection of Measles Virus RNA in Urine Specimens from Vaccine Recipients www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

3. Comparison of the Safety, Vaccine Virus Shedding and Immunogenicity of Influenza Virus Vaccine, Trivalent, Types A and B, Live Cold-Adapted, Administered to Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)-Infected and Non-HIV Infected Adults jid.oxfordjournals.org...

4. Sibling Transmission of Vaccine-Derived Rotavirus (RotaTeq) Associated with Rotavirus Gastroenteritis pediatrics.aappublications.org...

5. Polio vaccination may continue after wild virus fades www.cidrap.umn.edu...

6. Engineering attenuated virus vaccines by controlling replication fidelity www.nature.com...

7. CASE OF VACCINE-ASSOCIATED MEASLES FIVE WEEKS POST-IMMUNISATION, BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA, OCTOBER 2013 www.eurosurveillance.org...

8. The Safety Profile of Varicella Vaccine: A 10-Year Review jid.oxfordjournals.org...

9. Comparison of Shedding Characteristics of Seasonal Influenza Virus (Sub)Types and Influenza A(H1N1)pdm09; Germany, 2007–2011 journals.plos.org.../journal.pone.0051653

10. Epigenetics of Host–Pathogen Interactions: The Road Ahead and the Road Behind journals.plos.org.../journal.ppat.1003007

11. Animal Models for Influenza Virus Pathogenesis and Transmission www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

12. Acellular pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate mode www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

13. Study Finds Parents Can Pass Whooping Cough to Babies www.nytimes.com...

14. Immunized People Getting Whooping Cough www.kpbs.org...

15. Vaccine Failure — Over 1000 Got Mumps in NY in Last Six Months articles.mercola.com...–over-1000-get-mumps-in-ny-in-last-six-months.aspx

16. Impact of Repeated Vaccination on Vaccine Effectiveness Against Influenza A(H3N2) and B During 8 Seasons cid.oxfordjournals.org...

17. articles.mercola.com...

18 .www.cdc.gov...

19. vaccineimpact.com...

way back machine the old broken ones

plenty more of that to be found if you open your eyes and look not everyone will spoon feed it to you like this.

a reply to: deadlyhope

Doctors warranty Form for your doctor to complete. customise to suit your countiries/state law

Doctor’s/Physician’s

Warranty of Vaccine Safety

I (doctor’s name, degree)__________________________________________, am a physician/medical doctor licensed to practice medicine in Queensland.
My registration number is ________________________________
My medical specialty is __________________________________

I have a thorough understanding of the risks and benefits of all the medications that I prescribe for or administer to my patients. In the case of (patient’s name) ___________________________, age _________________, whom I have examined, I find that certain risk factors exist that fully justify the recommended vaccinations. The following is a list of said risk factors and the vaccinations that will protect against them:

Risk factor/vaccination
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________

I am aware that vaccines typically contain many of the following fillers and adjuvants:
• aluminium hydroxide
• aluminium phosphate
• ammonium sulphate
• amphotericin B
• animal tissues: pigs blood, horse blood, rabbits brain, broth of cows brain
• dog kidney, monkey kidney,
• chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
• calf (bovine) serum
• betapropiolactone
• fetal bovine serum
• formaldehyde
• formalin
• gelatin
• glycerol
• human diploid cells (originating from human aborted foetal tissue)
• hydrolized gelatin
• mercury (thimerosal/thiomersol)
• monosodium glutamate (MSG)
• neomycin
• neomycin sulphate
• phenol red indicator
• phenoxyethanol (anti-freeze)
• potassium diphosphate
• potassium monophosphate
• polymyxin B
• polysorbate 20
• polysorbate 80
• porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
• residual MRC5 proteins
• sorbitol
• sucrose
• tri(n)butylphosphate
• VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells, and
• washed sheep red blood, and, hereby, warrant that these ingredients are safe for injection into the body of my patient. Reports to the contrary, such as reports that mercury in thimerosal/thiomersal may cause severe neurological and immunological damage, are not credible.

I am aware that some vaccines have been found to have been contaminated with Simian Virus 40 (SV 40) and that SV 40 is causally linked by some researchers to non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma and mesotheliomas in humans as well as in experimental animals.

I hereby give my assurance that the vaccines I employ in my practice do not contain SV 40 or any other live viruses.

Alternately, I hereby give my assurance that said SV-40 virus or other viruses pose no risk whatsoever to my patient.

I hereby warrant that the vaccines I am recommending for the care of (patient’s name) _____________________________________ do not contain any tissue from aborted human babies (also known as "foetuses").

In order to protect my patient’s well being, I have taken the following steps to guarantee that the vaccines I will use will contain no damaging contaminants.

STEPS TAKEN:
_____________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________________

I have personally and extensively investigated the causes for adverse vaccine reaction and I'm certain that the vaccines I am recommending are completely safe for administration to a child under the age of 5 years.

I am aware that …………………………………………. (patient name) is a conscientious objector in the matter of vaccinations and has not given valid consent1 as required by dot point 2, of section 1.3.3 [page 12] of The Australian Immunisation Handbook 9th Edition.

I also warrant that the mandated and forced vaccination/s by Queensland Health Department for …………………………………………(patient name), will not cause ………………………………….. (patient name) any adverse reactions as listed in either section 1.5.22 [Adverse events following immunisation] and Appendix 63 [Definitions of adverse events following immunisation] of The Australian Immunisation Handbook 9th Edition.

The following double blind, placebo, controlled studies have been performed to demonstrate the safety of vaccines in children under the age of 5 years.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________________

In Case of Hep B Vaccine.
"Physician’s reasons for determining the invalidity of adverse scientific opinions."

Hepatitis B
I understand that 60% of patients who are vaccinated for Hepatitis B will lose detectable antibodies to Hepatitis B within 12 years.
I understand that 50% of patients who contract Hepatitis B develop no symptoms after exposure.
I understand that 30% will develop only flu-like symptoms and will have lifetime immunity.
I understand that 20% will develop the symptoms of the disease, but that 95% will fully recover and have lifetime immunity.
I understand that 5% of the patients who are exposed to Hepatitis B will become chronic carriers of the disease.
I understand that 75% of the chronic carriers will live with an asymptomatic infection and that only 25% of the chronic carriers will develop chronic liver disease or liver cancer, 10-30 years after the acute infection.

In addition to the recommended vaccinations as protections against the above cited risk factors, I have recommended other non-vaccine measures to protect the health of my patient and have enumerated said non-vaccine measures on exhibit D, attached hereto, "Non-vaccine measures to protect against risk factors."

I am issuing this physician’s/doctor’s Warranty of Vaccine Safety in my professional capacity as the attending physician/doctor, to (patient’s name) ________________________________.

Regardless of the legal entity under which I normally practice medicine, I am issuing this statement in both my business and individual, personal capacities and hereby waive any statutory

omg guys! you are making me nervous and confused! I have a 2 month old daughter who already had 3 vaccines (2 shots and a gel) and getting another set in 2 months.

I have no problem with no vac's for kids with valid medical reasons.
But just because mommy reads a thread on a conspiracy site is not enough reason to opt out.

We have lived in sheltered times for many decades because most people took the vac's.

But now even to vac'ers can suffer from the non vac'ers.
Thought experiment:
Most people are employed in small businesses.
These no vac'ers are now becoming your boss as they own the company.
If they die from a preventable disease you are out of a job.

a reply to: pryingopen3rdeye

More than half your sources are sites like Mercola, the other half are sources you obviously didn't read.

You're cherry picking between bad information and information you don't understand.

a reply to: projectvxn

you have not presented a thing to discredit any of those scholarly articles,

your response is nothing but "I don't like your information so it's wrong" opinion, meaningless.

I notice all your posts tend to be that way, in doing that you only waste your own time as well as those that read your "imo" trite.

a reply to: pryingopen3rdeye

you have not presented a thing to discredit any of those scholarly articles

Hahahaha! "Scholarly"..lol You kill me man.

It just gets tiring doing it over and over again.

Between your cherry picking of data and sources like mercola you have a long way to go before you can refer to anything you post as scholarly.