Communism will never die even if the word disappears it will be called something else.

Communism will never die even if the word disappears it will be called something else.

Why it will never be gone the same way the NWO Agenda wants it gone. Whom they want everyone to live in a monetary system stuck paying for life. Taxes are proof, crap education is proof. Everyone moving out is also proof. You can keep running eventually they be coming for you.

First off Communism, forget about the word and fake communist propaganda such as NK. Forget the rich calling everyone communist because they want to maintain their number system and fake paper.

Communism word never came about until USSR started rising. Humanity has been known to work together eventually. That is how we survived the great flood and all sorts. Today's age we have greedy rich keeping everyone in the same place below the pyramid. It is a cycle to eventually to go communist and flip the pyramid. The direct opposite of working together is war(Corporations, MIC, Stalins USSR). That is what we see in movies such as Mad Max, non-stop war for survival instead of working together to rebuild(Fallout bottle caps anyone?). Just like US today full of different gangs and groups whom never work together and divided over money, this by default divides the population itself into even more different groups because no one can seem to trust each other anymore(since the Cold War).

I'm pretty sure all those dead WW2 vets will be rolling over their graves by now if they see America today full of gangs. They have known the Wild West Era and they probably know it was bad as some of them were living in it(great grand fathers) or had learned real history about it(grandfathers).

If you think US didn't go a little bit communist during WW2 then your lying to yourself. Sure there was still money, but a lot of civilians joined the military without mad requirements unlike today. Even in the revolutionary time, the independence from Britain. People united, fight, and worked together. US seems to be in a cycle to going communist and then going back to corporate where everyone seems to be stuck paying for life under greed. Wild West extermination of Natives was mad proof. After WW1 is mad proof. After WW2 is also mad proof. So what makes you think your going to be saved doing WW3? It will just be another one of those cycles. Seems to me the only countries that don't have this kind of cycle are those who don't follow Imperialism or Western Ideals such as Cuba and China. Though China is now changing to more of a Capitalist, it is still in fact pretty much communist in village areas.

www.wired.com...

You know why? Compare to American Gov, Chinese Gov calls itself communist. So if they try to take down communist system, then everyone knows they are a lie. While US villages gets invaded by corporations and eventually taken over.

Communism as an imposed governmental system and command economy can never exist in reality and that's why it never goes away. It's like the unicorn we all want to believe in as children. It looks so very, very pretty on paper. No one owns anything, everything belongs to everyone and everyone shares equally and works hard for the benefit of all.

Then, reality and human nature set in and you grow up and realize that such a system cannot exist on a mass scale because people will take advantage of others. It is inevitable.

So every time it's tried and fails horribly (see Venezuela), the excuse comes that it wasn't "true" communism. Of course it wasn't! That can never exist. There are never the "right" people to run it.

a reply to: makemap

Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Liberalism....

They all start running together eventually.

It have been named something else, progressive.or the old stand by, the DNC

So then how to come-up with a system, that treats all with equanimity, and prevents the sociopaths from taking advantage of it, (them)?

Surely we can think of something!

Jacques Fresco? Michael Tellinger?

originally posted by: Nothin
So then how to come-up with a system, that treats all with equanimity, and prevents the sociopaths from taking advantage of it, (them)?

Surely we can think of something!

Jacques Fresco? Michael Tellinger?

A classless society?
Anarchy?

originally posted by: makemap
Communism will never die even if the word disappears it will be called something else.

Don't they call it "Progressive" now?

a reply to: ColdWisdom

All systems will eventually start running together like that. Even Capitalism does the same. Capitalism starts off as an economic system and then expands to include a system of Government as well, just like the others.

Just like all the others it too fails because for one reason as the system grows so does the complexity and diversity over great distance. That eventually becomes far too difficult to control correctly. Over great distances there are too many differences and no one system can account for them all at the same time.

I don't think people are even capable of coming up with a complete system. They all work pretty well when populations and stuff are smaller. But not when they start getting really big and complex. Balancing between community and individuality for everyone within one system may not even be possible at all. I mean can you think of even one example where it's ever happened??? Not only for humans but any creature for that matter???

a reply to: makemap

Equal under the law is one thing, however, people will never be equal in production, skills and talent. Communism stifles that creativity and talent by catering to the lowest common denominator.

Free men aren't equal and equal men aren't free. Communism only works if mankind is enslaved by the state.

Donald Trump is a communist. Free market capitalism doesn't exist, yet the Republicans hide under the guise of capitalism. Meanwhile the democrats talk about economic growth which is stimulated only with government funding.

The fact of the matter is America is a corporate nation which artificially drives markets through it's own institutions. We aren't a free Republic, and we aren't a confederacy of Dunces.

Americans are merely slaves to a communist regime which dangles the carrot in the name of patriotism. So long as the people are so economically desperate to conscript themselves to military service, we shall live in a perpetual state of war. Red white and blue communism.

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: makemap

Equal under the law is one thing, however, people will never be equal in production, skills and talent. Communism stifles that creativity and talent by catering to the lowest common denominator.

Free men aren't equal and equal men aren't free. Communism only works if mankind is enslaved by the state.

mankind is enslaved by the state. buying our time in exchange for keeping us yoked to the big wigs who hold the purse and the title. how many people are able to build houses on their own land and produce their own food and fabric and medicine free of economic strings and legislative red tape? many are drowning in debt because they were and still are chained to a system that is meant to keep us dependent rather than productive. communism is not the only system that has been exploited by clever people with questionable ethics.

a reply to: makemap

Red Bull?



but seriously, traditionally communist regimes are embracing capitalism. Capitalist ones are increasingly driven to provide social services and to tax the wealthiest.

We are becoming 'The Great Fuzzy Middle'.

a reply to: makemap

Any political system regardless of whether it is socialist inspired or capitalist inspired will leave a bad taste in someone's mouth but I have to bite the red rag and ask what you actually call communism.

Is it the work's of Karl Marx which he in part plagiarized from Christian teaching as well as Jewish teaching.

Or Lenin's interpretation of his work.

Or Stalin's or Mao's tyrannical turning on it's head of his earlier version (true despot's that they were).

Or is it simply any form of Socialism regardless of it's motivation and origin.

Now many so called Christians especially in the US are constantly raging against all form's of Socialism but they need to read the book they hold so dear and look again at there opinion.

www.zompist.com...

So it was a religious command to give to the poor AKA pre Marxist socialism and it was repeated AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN throughout the bible but is conveniently overlooked and even ignored.

Of course I am not suggesting you are religious or even a christian but it is note worthy.

Personally I believe there is nothing against being rich so long as you abide by God's law's and command's in the bible if you are but for the rich that command hold's even more true and remember Jesus that homeless guy you would likely call a Hobo today, indeed you both would and have done so, as you treat the least of these so too do you treat me, well he happen's to be the only righteous king, the only righteous government and by the way there is no democracy in heaven, God's word is law.

Of course in the past 2000 years there have not been very many true christian's but the Jewish Kibbutz were the closest thing to those very early pre-Constantine church's were the wealth of the community (congregation) was held in COMMON and shared as was needed among the people of the church, no princes of the church back then or multi millionaire TV evangelists whom are in it today for the money but are often superb salesmen even one of the most famous in the US JHM whom paid off his wife's alimony with church fund's, well he own's that church so it is his Business and not a real church eh?.


Communism though a failure is an extreme born of social injustice and a lack of fairness in society, oh and people starving and homeless on the street's helps it along nicely, it never work's but people will turn to it when they are most desperate and that come's often at time's when the most wealthy are completely out of touch with the most poor.

Of course in India you can get away with it, Cast System's and entrenched social stratification make it a way of life in a system were no matter how poor you are unless you are at the very bottom there is always someone whom is worse off and whom your religion tell's you is meant to be worse off but in the west Christ crowned the poor, ordered the rich to go and sell all they own and share it with the poor then come and follow him, to store up there treasure in heaven were it can not be stolen or moth eaten and to reject the power's, principality' and rulers of this world because they are servant's of Satan and in time go into the cooking pot with him.

a reply to: Nothin

Not really. The common failing factor in all systems is the human element. People are people, and since there are that certain percentage of people top to bottom who are always going to be shiftless and ruthless and selfish, they will ensure that every system is flawed.

Because of that, the best system is one that lets you make as many choices as you can for yourself. That gives you the best chance to minimize the damage those individuals can do to you personally. It also opens the door for you to help others as much as you choose to. Hopefully, what most want to believe about others - that we are fundamentally good - is true and most will be helped.

Then you want a stable framework of the laws that cannot be manipulated easily by the unscrupulous. The law may not always favor you in a dispute - it's true; sometimes the dick will win because the law is on his side - but at least you have the security of knowing it is applied as written to all.

Now, I am not arguing that is the US system currently. But it was the vision for it.

a reply to: makemap

It is not easy to accurately frame in what a Communist is - but, it becomes easier when you imagine something opposite of "Free Man" (and woman alike).

Free Man is a concept born during the period of enlightment, and having its peak when the founding fathers put these ideas into the Constitution. Which makes it for the same reason the BEST constitution in the world history.

But Communism - that is the opposite of all that, including the whole notion of an individual and his/her rights. There is no freedom, and no man/woman. There is State, the Government, the Authority., the Institutions, Corporations. Those abstracts, virtual entitites which have an existence beyoned humans. "Corporations are also humans" is statement so close - you might puke. And then you poor sod, who serve these without right to own your skin.

To start with. And it only gets worse from there.


So, Freedom of Man/Woman, vs Communism. If you are for standing tall and free to govern yourself - by definition you are anti-communist, and should raise your head proud being so.


PS. what ever may come, lets give them for it.