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originally posted by: Masterjaden
I'm just saying there is a lot of conjecture about the reason for the death.
I'm also saying that the confronting him for pissing could easily have little to do with the final outcome and it's wrong for people to jump to that conclusion.
originally posted by: Masterjaden
This is the # I'm talking about. You are basically saying all that matters is that the "cowboy" confronted the pissing guy.
That's NOT what matters. What matters are a couple of different things. Who physically assaulted who first. How reasonable was the amount of force used and at what point did the threat from the deceased end.
Without knowing those things, the fault of the death(let me correct this, the legal culpability of the death) cannot be determined and to try and claim that all that matters is "cowboy" confronted dead guy, and cowboy is alive and dead guy is dead is ludicrous.
p.s. we do NOT know the answers to the important questions from the info that has been released thus far.
originally posted by: Masterjaden
Most of the people in this thread are yelling string this "cowboy" up already. So it sure seems like a court room or that no one seems to care about this guys legal rights.
originally posted by: Masterjaden
The ONLY thing I've defended are the rights of individuals to call out others on their behavior
originally posted by: MagnaCarta2015
Cops shouldn't even be able to use chokes. It's way more dangerous when a cop does it for the simple fact that if you're in a bjj class youre one on one and can feel when the guy passes out and goes limp plus you have an instructor close by. In the cage youve got a ref. On the ground with a bunch of other cops restraining various limbs with knees in backs etc they're not going to feel anything and the guy is likely to pass out far quicker.
originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: daskakik
Choking a guy to death is NOT illegal,
Jaden