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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: BestOf
The problem is everyone is paying for a Harvard Education and getting a GED.
Meaning we pay for #1 health care, and get well, terrible health care.
originally posted by: seasonal
So Cali is leading the way in the US with a single payer system.
A proposal to adopt a single-payer healthcare system for California took an initial step forward Thursday when the state Senate approved a bare-bones bill that lacks a method for paying the $400-billion cost of the plan.
The proposal was made by legislators led by Sen. Ricardo Lara (D-Bell Gardens) at the same time President Trump and Republican members of Congress are working to repeal and replace the federal Affordable Care Act.
Not everyone is super excited about this bill.
Tom Bayhill (who has life time free govt funded insurance) believes that the private sector is better suited to "provide" healthcare. He doesn't trust the govt (again free govt funded health care for life) to run health care, what has the govt ever done right (again free govt funded health care for life for good ol'Tom).
www.latimes.com...
Republican senators opposed the bill as a threat to the state’s finances.
“We don’t have the money to pay for it,” Sen. Tom Berryhill (R-Modesto) said. “If we cut every single program and expense from the state budget and redirected that money to this bill, SB 562, we wouldn’t even cover half of the $400-billion price tag.”
Berryhill also said the private sector is better suited to provide healthcare.
“I absolutely don’t trust the government to run our health system,” he said. “What has the government ever done right?”
With the US being (by far) the most expensive system, and having a dismal #37 in health outcomes (behind Columbia) I think we maybe should start to look at other options. Is this it? I can't say, but the states are supposed to be the incubators of innovation.
originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: seasonal
My parents home country of Colombia haas better health care outcomes than the USA?? No wonder my mom and her friends always flew there to get cosmetic procedures. I always figured the cost of the plane would negate any savings, but I guess its cheaper AND safer.
Crazy isn't it? A girl I know has been trying to get me to move to Bogota for a while, and in my research about Colombia that was one of the things I was surprised by. Their healthcare, doctors, and hospitals are so much better than the U.S.
Colombia's economy
According to International Monetary Fund estimates, in 2012 Colombia's GDP (PPP) was US$500 billion (28th in the world and third in South America).
Colombia is now one of only three economies with a perfect score on the strength of legal rights index, according to the World Bank.
The electricity production in Colombia comes mainly from renewable energy sources. 69.97% is obtained from the hydroelectric generation.[195] Colombia's commitment to renewable energy was recognized in the 2014 Global Green Economy Index (GGEI), ranking among the top 10 nations in the world in terms of greening efficiency sectors.[196]
Also invented in Colombia were the microkeratome and keratomileusis technique, which form the fundamental basis of what now is known as LASIK (one of the most important techniques for the correction of refractive errors of vision) and the Hakim valve for the treatment of Hydrocephalus, among others.[212] Colombia has begun to innovate in military technology for its army and other armies of the world; especially in the design and creation of personal ballistic protection products, military hardware, military robots, bombs, simulators and radar.[213][214][215]
originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: SBMcG
Im not going to derail this thread to defend my parents country, but I just think you probably should do a bit more research before calling this place third world. EVERY country is a developing country, including the USA. If your not developing, your stagnating.
Colombia's economy
According to International Monetary Fund estimates, in 2012 Colombia's GDP (PPP) was US$500 billion (28th in the world and third in South America).
Colombia is now one of only three economies with a perfect score on the strength of legal rights index, according to the World Bank.
The electricity production in Colombia comes mainly from renewable energy sources. 69.97% is obtained from the hydroelectric generation.[195] Colombia's commitment to renewable energy was recognized in the 2014 Global Green Economy Index (GGEI), ranking among the top 10 nations in the world in terms of greening efficiency sectors.[196]
Also invented in Colombia were the microkeratome and keratomileusis technique, which form the fundamental basis of what now is known as LASIK (one of the most important techniques for the correction of refractive errors of vision) and the Hakim valve for the treatment of Hydrocephalus, among others.[212] Colombia has begun to innovate in military technology for its army and other armies of the world; especially in the design and creation of personal ballistic protection products, military hardware, military robots, bombs, simulators and radar.[213][214][215]
I am fairly certain Colombia is more developed than a handful of NATO states, especially the likes of Latvia and Estonia, although they have their fair share of accomplishments no doubt.
I don't think this bill is going to pass the Cali senate in any case.
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: BestOf
If this is the case, then how are 36 other countries out performing the US in terms of health outcomes and cost?
originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: seasonal
My parents home country of Colombia haas better health care outcomes than the USA?? No wonder my mom and her friends always flew there to get cosmetic procedures. I always figured the cost of the plane would negate any savings, but I guess its cheaper AND safer.