Baddogma's Other Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Awesome!

We’ve gotten back to several conversations going on at once.

After my post on another thread about only having problem solving dreams I had dreams about music!

And my tormentor showed back up! Too busy working to note it here but had several days of “normal.” So that helped.

Anyway, it is better than it was!

Thanks for the response to my A.I. story (I get too literary sometimes... and assume everyone knows what I am talking about. That is not close to reality! I need explain more of the ideas in the story itself... but then it is no longer short! D@mned if you do...)

Anyway, work has gotten dumb as people don’t even read email and complain that I don’t communicate with them (so they call me on my personal phone while I am work... idiots)

Hope everyone at the Meta Cafe finds themselves in a good spot as we hit spring!!

(Spring?? Where did the time go??)

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I'm installing Eclipse. I tried Netbeans first but somehow I was too stupid to install it. Great start for my programming endeavors haha, right?


How are you guys? I'm devestated(?) 98% total damage. Busy and in such a bad mood! My mailbox is in reality a catastrophy box. I think I'll get someone who will handle the stupid garbage for me from now on!

Ey Reverbs how's the new place? Did you move?

a reply to: Peeple

Burning in restaurant hell, loophole worked out so i dont have to move right away.

Thats about it.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

In my lovely new book that I was telling Serdigiam about there's a quote by Seneca that gave me pause,

"Let us be satisfied with what we have discovered, and leave a little truth for our descendants to find out."

And it took us a very long while get here but we now have the truths to Seneca's unanswered questions. Now we are faced with what we do with those answers and how we address all the untruths.

I saw this this morning on reddit, it made me chuckle. I love the prolonged resistence of the one on the far left, but eventually it too becomes a slave to the rhythm .

a reply to: Reverbs

That's good, right? Not the burning in hell part, but you don't have to move.

I'm currently reading "The secret history of the world" by Laura Knight-something and it's super freaky. Holy Grail, alchemy and UFOs all in one package. I can't say I've learned much so far, but it's fun.
It gave me the freaky idea that "higher dimensions" higher self and all of that is where we go when we die and the reason why UFOs change appearance over time is because they do research on the other side too. It's evolving. Scientists won't stop science-ing just because they're dead. The goal of alchemy the holy grail and all of that is overcoming death, right? So what if the real goal from the other side is unifying the two realms?
Establishing communication but not channelling or séances but high tech. Maybe that's the reason the greys look like incomplete humanoids, a bandwidth problem?
And it fits in with myth/scripture: the death will rise again... *dramatic beaver*

Thoughts?

a reply to: Peeple

These other dimensions can not be imagined as 3d space or time. I agree with your thoughts in a basic way. Like my psychic seems to be the same thing. Something getting to my consciousness doesnt exist inside spacetime. So i think of dimension 5 as mind or something. Its a place with no size and no place that from 4d perspective is bigger than all universes combined.

Because "scientists" bias so hard to reality being the same thing as spacetime, they make the other dimensions curl and fold tiny like micro black holes..

Ehh..

Seems like people are stuck behind their two eyes always thinking from here to there, from first person view to infinity.. it makes all your thoughts limited to distance and time.

In my reality things and information can warp or travel faster than light. Thing is its not impossible because they arent movingthrough space time. Rather its more like they pop in from "outside."

GAH!!!!!!!!!!!

Change is BAD!!!!

LOL...

Went to phys.org and they have done a refresh of their website... looks like the mobile version now which sux!!

I want the world the world put back the way it was! I want my MTV!!!

German Kriminalpolizei (?) has started to steal my packages and they openly admit it. What messed up world is this? They also said it's free from persecution I have nothing to fear... wtf?
Now I wait for two things and ... just wish me luck I get my stuff.


And I currently play again Oblivion, retro but so cool! I played it years ago when it came out so I've forgotten everything! My characters are always named "Peri Meta" haha... just got my first horse, killed a few rats I'm a North barbarian lady and quite happy about that. Later I go shopping in the Imperial City.
I didn't dare to get Skyrim, I only have an i5 with no graphic card worth mentioning so I think it would have looked almost the same... And I really like slaying Daedra.

a reply to: Peeple

Importing illegal memes?

I kid..
But maybe one of these items:
here


Skyrim looks amazing on the switch. Sadly i never have the time. Then every week I get another game haha, now ill never beat any of them. I have like 40 games on there, and i beat 1? Wolfenstein 2.
Which is funny, is that game allowed over there?? hmm.. seems like no way lol..

Wait..
wolfenstein german censors

a reply to: Reverbs

No, I got a letter from the police saying my stuff is with them and they're going after the one shipping it. So I switched the shipping method and tracking says it will arrive tomorrow. *fingers crossed*

You poor guy work too much still burning in restaurant hell?
I don't want to upgrade my laptop he's pretty loud and dirty but I like that. He's teaching me java. Today we watched the omen.
Maybe I try if GTA V is running, but I only play an hour or so per day so Oblivion should keep me busy a while.

Expect far out rambling tomorrow afternoon... Yes that kind of stuff

Wolfenstein is censored like crazy. Why are you playing that?

a reply to: Peeple

I'd like to point out I'm aware we are talking about drugs, not weed. I'm finished there's stuff that just isn't good. I just threw away 50€ and I see that as privilege. I'm that wealthy. And so far so free. That should be global standard, that it's up to me to say "no".
I just chill and look at whatever faces me. If I try a new thing I take baby steps. As true hippy child (If I we're born in the US my name would be Cloudgazer) you never know with drugs. There are good ones and bad ones, but I firmly believe the amount makes all the difference. I just had too much for the first time. I had 3 draws(?) baby steps. But I noticed a few things and I should explain: Chill into it works on so many levels.
That's how it should be approached the Woo! Altered state of minds, but not from drugs. Adrenalin rush, etc, but from when something touches your mind. I know it's real, somewhere between the psyop the mental illness and exaggerations there is really something there, something unexplained.
That's the main one. I also don't like alcohol and I appreciate being wealthy and free enough so I don't have to. But I'm also responsible enough to not being stupid about it. I know it's dangerous.
But it is research. I think about consciousness if I'm not just busy wasting my time. What better way to explore it than altering it? Pushing it buzzing it...
And I'm not ashamed about that aspect of me. Sure there are tons of people doing it wrong. But I totally got it.
Lol.

a reply to: Peeple

Okay now it's better, I had to get adjusted. Amazing right? My consciousness does that. The body is just the engine for that.
Just in case you were wondering
I'm experiencing a chemical reaction and it's a full body experience but my mind makes a story that makes sense out of that.
And that is the real question.

How deep goes the story?

Is in my personal experience everything chance or are there things which make sense, have meaning?
On a very fundamental however tiny basic level.
Do you not experience that things make sense? The human race is too successful to deny something is going on beyond chance. Some things make sense.
Not?

a reply to: Peeple

I can't even beging to estimate how deep the story goes. You'd have to calculate for every possible decision in advantace. For everything you spark into life and then some.
Focussed attention force for your experience. Whoever watches your attention creates your story. Who has the most weight, the biggest impact on your life?
Magic. They even call it that.
But it's not Disney anymore it's Silicon Valley.
Their methods evolve. But in some way our attention is useful to them.
There is no coincidence. We should think in bigger pictures.
Our experience is predirected.
But I couldn't give you a percentage how deep it goes.

a reply to: Peeple

I am in no way special, there are many others like me. The miracle is the fact we have a consciousness and kind of think we can figure out what it does. The very drive to understand the universe. We all do it for the life.
Like really big picture. Imagine.
How do we tell what's alive? Consciousness, yes or no?
Is that fiction? The fact I'm alive?
What makes me alive? My impact on my environment.
Big impact, intelligence.
Small impact, plants.
Even smaller minerals.
But small or big what's the actual size?
The crater.

Hi ya'll!

I have been rather busy at work as people I work with have to be trained up to their jobs positions (big training next week, hope that helps because they need it. A lot of problems would be solved if they RTFM a bit instead of asking in email each time they can't figure something out).

Bouncing around this morning I went to Quanta as I usually do. Right there, front and center, the main story about networks and synchronization. How they were noticed at first and studied mathematically. Then how newer versions that are more complex were discovered. Parts fall in sync (N'sync!! Bye, bye, bye!) while others randomly fluctuate. They likened it to how the electric grid hums along then branches out to individual home where all the previous synced signals go random; and how the brain works.

Of course, can't think of anything else but that also explains the MetaCafé!!

We are all doing our own thing talking about what interests us at the moment, then, BAM! It synchronizes together along a topic like personal woo and we all get the tingly sense as it manifests around us.

Anyway, it is a possible answer that doesn't require interdimensional beings broadcasting message through hyperspace, just some complicated math!

quantamagazine.org - Scientists Discover Exotic New Patterns of Synchronization.

In a world seemingly filled with chaos, physicists have discovered new forms of synchronization and are learning how to predict and control them.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

But math in itself isn't a thing. What is it describing? That's all it does.

a reply to: Peeple


Does math exist outside of our heads?

I would have to cautiously say, "yes". Animals can count. Aliens have told their abductee, "We know math differently than you do." We have a common name for things in the language of mathematics (Mr. Phage knows that he was just pushing my buttons to acknowledge there are different languages which is not the same when talking about the language of math: zero is always zero).

Physics is using logic and math to describe physical systems. So the funny patterns that sync up after running for a bit can be described in one state, then shown which will be in another state and which will be chaotic. As the article said, each person has their particular pet formula. My pet formula is the MetaCafé itself!

The difference being, I do not know the formula, I only know that it seems to work!

Which is how mind seems to work. And mathematics!

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Do you know the story of the Meter? It's entirely arbitrarily. It's supposed to be a 10 n th fraction of the Earth's circumference, but it's 2 mm "wrong" each meter.
In the sum that's a lot.
We use maths for physics, geometry, statistics, ... I'd say it's not a language it's a system.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Then I am sowhere between animal and you, in maths. Plus minus etc. sure, equations, most of it is 3d geometry, a fraction of a circle.
Looking for n, variables. sinus cosinus.

I hope my intelligence gets measured with other things than maths.

a reply to: Peeple

Wolfenstein was a great game to me. Ive actually beat it twice. Its not censored here. It actually caught even me off guard how "colorful" the language is and goreyness..

The german version took off hitlers mustache haha.

Everything is relative. Math only exists to something that can count or couculate. Energy doesnt = math. Math can describe energetic interactions but so can my imagination.
Magnitude is real and described with math but can also be described poetically.

I dont know if anything feels without consciousness.. the universe could be blind deaf and dumb without plants and humans and stuffs. I don't know.