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originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: eletheia
You can use semantics, you call it a fetus because if you believe it to be a baby, then you know it is murder. When does a fetus become a baby?
The chance of survival at fewer than 23 weeks is close to zero, while at 23 weeks it is 15%, 24 weeks 55% and 25 weeks about 80%. The chances of survival without long term difficulties are lower.
Parasite an organism which lives in or on another organism (its host) and
benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.
I don't believe in pre-judging someone's quality of life.
I have a nephew who was born severely handicapped mentally and physically. He lives in group home paid for by the state. I believe in a social safety net.
But again, you and all the other supporters refuse to address how intentionally aborting of an otherwise wanted child because of the babies genetic makeup is not eugenics.
To me, the reaction to external stimuli seems to be a conscious act.
I also don't understand what you mean by liberty, but it is certainly not objective.
The protections afforded to pregnant woman in Roe v. Wade are not based on an objective reading of the Bill of Rights. If they were, then they would have been protected long before 1973. The Court that decided Roe believed in a "living" constitution, meaning it would evolve with the changing ethic of the nation.
originally posted by: windword
The fact is, SCOTUS ruled that a fetus is NOT a "person born" and therefore, not entitled to Constitutional rights.
originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: eletheia
You calling a baby a parasite shows exactly what type of person you are.
Definition of a parasite. An organism which lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.
This point is further driven home by the fact that you think people should be killed because of the expense of keeping them alive.
And yet you don't think it's eugenics. Stunning, absolutely stunning.
We will never be of the same mind because I cannot fathom the lack of empathy
you have for the mentally challenged.