World for Whites only? Even in the 21 century.

no one likes to admit it but we hold european people way way above mexicans....every white person knows deep down that they do not want non-whites taking over the country but they are scared to be labled a racist or bigot....however, we should allow a certain amount of mexicans and other less-valued people into the country to perform menial tasks that are no longer suited for white people....and these people should not be treated any differently then the way a white person would want to be treated....i am disturbed how the mexican government does not refer to these border crossers as illegal immigrants though...vincente fox calls them "migrants"...that is insane and furthermore anyone white mexican or mongolian trying to illegally enter the country should be shot in the kneecaps on site to prevent a second attempt.

Yeticha, I see your point, but in this PC world of ours today, not gonna happen. The "white people" will be trampled on for many more years to come yet. We need to get over this guilt forced upon us by other races. We have been able to learn from our mistakes and advance/evolve. The caucasians haven't been the dominent race for nothing you know, and just to think, caucasians only make up a small percentage of this planet in percentage terms

The worst thing about the Mexicans is they come here with no intention of becoming American. They want to keep their Spanish language, live in segregated neighborhoods and even demand their kids be taught in Spanish in the public schools.

exactly...people love playing the racism card when they cannot get their way....there is no personal responsibilty left anymore amongst non-whites....they can't get into college---blame the white man...they get beat up by a cop for being high on pcp---blame the white man.

We have the exact same problem here in Britain, and from what I have heard mainland Europe, too, djohnsto77, and they wonder why we are skeptical about letting even more immigrants (sp) in to our countries

haha white australia policy, yes this was still a policy untill the late seventies and it was a very rascist policy, but now melbourne in australia is one of the biggest multicultural countires in the world. Im not a rascist at all, if you came to our city you would know that we welcome asians much more than you think. 7-10 people you see in the city are of asian decent, so please dont say australia is a racist country.

wang, no Western nation I know of can ever be classed as racist, not in this day and age. What you have just said can probably be said for most if not all major countries in the Western World. On the other hand, there are many countries around the World who do not welcome "whites", ie Africa.

yeah well i understand why they dont want us their...we really havent been great to the africans have we?
The only thing that annoys me is when imigrants do not try to assimulate into the culture, yes it is fine to keep traditionals and beliefs but still i think they should make a effort to embrace into the culture of the country they have chosen to live in.

Originally posted by JADESTONE

But the European are wellcomed any time, does having different Visa rules for different countries not mount to racism.

The rules are the same for all, that is why they established the lottery system.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
The worst thing about the Mexicans is they come here with no intention of becoming American. They want to keep their Spanish language, live in segregated neighborhoods and even demand their kids be taught in Spanish in the public schools.

Exactly - they want to turn exas and California into another Mexico, only have it paid for by the US

I am honestly in favor of having gunships fly up and down the boarder, sweeping all of it with machine gun nests at like 300 yard intervals in front of a mine field and just start shooting anyone trying to come over illegally. That problem would end in about 2 weeks.

[edit on 4-2-2005 by American Mad Man]

Originally posted by wang
The only thing that annoys me is when imigrants do not try to assimulate into the culture, yes it is fine to keep traditionals and beliefs but still i think they should make a effort to embrace the culture of the country they have chosen to live in.

Just as if my family were to move to France we would make every effort to follow the French rules and laws. I would not expect France to make changes simply to suit my family.

Now how does that saying go…When in Rome…

[edit on 4-2-2005 by Ruins]

I certainly agree the "white Australia" immigration policy was racist. However we have made a lot of progress since the times when our greatest fear was an invasion from the east (even though Asia is actually north west in relation to Australia people here called it the east back then lol) otherwise known as the yellow peril. Which used the fear of what happened in WW2 to drum up support for war in Vietnam. Today Australia is a very different place, very multicultural and a large portion of our population is Asian. I feel we have greatly benefited from all the non-British cultures that have been introduced over the years and will continue doing so.



[edit on 4-2-2005 by Trent]

Originally posted by American Mad Man

Originally posted by djohnsto77
The worst thing about the Mexicans is they come here with no intention of becoming American. They want to keep their Spanish language, live in segregated neighborhoods and even demand their kids be taught in Spanish in the public schools.

Exactly - they want to turn exas and California into another Mexico, only have it paid for by the US

I am honestly in favor of having gunships fly up and down the boarder, sweeping all of it with machine gun nests at like 300 yard intervals in front of a mine field and just start shooting anyone trying to come over illegally. That problem would end in about 2 weeks.

[edit on 4-2-2005 by American Mad Man]

Originally posted by Ruins

Originally posted by wang
The only thing that annoys me is when imigrants do not try to assimulate into the culture, yes it is fine to keep traditionals and beliefs but still i think they should make a effort to embrace the culture of the country they have chosen to live in.

Just as if my family were to move to France we would make every effort to follow the French rules and laws. I would not expect France to make changes simply to suit my family.

Now how does that saying go…When in Rome…

[edit on 4-2-2005 by Ruins]

Ignorance Denied

The Hispanic presence in what is now the United States actually began before the country existed. Spanish explorers established colonies in what would become the Southeast and Southwest regions of the United States.

Edit: spelling, my own ignorance denied


[edit on 4-2-2005 by poonchang]

Ok, we need to get some facts straight.

I married a German National. I am American. I still had to wait one whole agonizing year for the visas to come through for my wife and children. I even called my Congressman (Lipinski, D-IL), who basically told me that if we harassed the INS, the visas would take even longer. Just know that I was upset that whole year, cursing the INS and Government for making my, and my family's, life miserable.

There is no 'conspiracy' about letting Europeans in easier. I asked the INS about it. Their reply was that, depending on how many applicants they have per year from a particular country, that makes the waiting time longer. She said Mexicans have an average wait of 2-3 years, while a Philipino or Indian has an average wait of 5 years.

Western Europeans are not coming to America in droves like they did in the past. Their economies and governments are pretty much stable. The largest influx at the moment from Europe are from the Eastern Countries, like in the early 1900's. That is when our family came here from Croatia. Western Europeans( France, England, Germany, etc) do not come to America for economic advancement, per se. They have either been relocated by their employers, or they married Americans. They are not shipping dollars back home, driving the value down.

On the other habd, when I went to Germany and applied for my Aufenthaltsgenehmigung( Visa, or green card), I received one that was permanent on the same day I applied for it. The knew that I, as an American, am not in Germany for economic advancement, per se. I had a wife and children there. I would not be shipping Marks( at the time) back to the US to support my brothers and sisters.

My children, since there were fathered by me
( I hope ), are automatically American citizens, even though they were born in Germany. They have dual citizenship, at the moment. When they reach 18, they will have to decide which way they are going to swing.

Whites are the minority in the world. That is a fact. We have stabilised our countries after WW2, outside a few skirmishes in the Balkans and Caucasus
If they decide to stop immigration into their countries, would that be rascist? Not in my opinion. They are just trying to protect what is theirs. I am proud of our achievements, but not to the point where I believe we are better than anyone else. We just have our act together, for the most part.

I tell my daughter, " Don't hate anyone for the color of their skin, but don't let them make you feel bad for the color of yours".

That is what the schools are trying to teach our children. The white man did this, and the white man did that. I find that abhorrent and wrong. Out of all the bad things that have happened, there were just as many good things. And that is that.


[edit on 4-2-2005 by nathraq]

Hear, hear (sp) nathraq

I think this thread can be put to rest now