Arab states offer Israel improved ties in exchange for peace concessions

a reply to: redempsh
The rocket fire you are referring to comes from Hamas (Mossad) controlled Gaza, not the West Bank, which is where Abbas holds power. These two are competing governors of the Palestinian people, and the West Bank has not been launching any kind of rockets for some time. So I think your argument there is a bit misplaced.

a reply to: redempsh

I don't understand your post. Are you for the two-state solution or against it?

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: redempsh
The rocket fire you are referring to comes from Hamas (Mossad) controlled Gaza, not the West Bank, which is where Abbas holds power. These two are competing governors of the Palestinian people, and the West Bank has not been launching any kind of rockets for some time. So I think your argument there is a bit misplaced.

Well Abbas is little more than a collaborator who dismantled the legacy of Arafat and does little within his power to discourage Israel's genocide in the West Bank.

Hamas actually fights back about Israel's aggression. Their politics are fairly abhorrent to me, their tactics are absolutely brutal and barbaric at times, but barbarism must be met with barbarism since that is all the Palestinians have ever experienced from the Zionists.

Based on current military spending projections over the next 30 years it would be much cheaper if we moved the entire state of Israel, all its Jewish inhabitants, all the roads and buildings, to a location in Arizona or New Mexico. One giant airlift. All the temples, everything. Call it New Israel the 51st and 52nd state. Just saying they would be the 51st state is not enough. And amend the Constitution so New Israel gets the same representational power as New York, California, or Texas. Otherwise we will never hear an end to the whining.

a reply to: dfnj2015
Thats what I have been proposing for years! But we need to do it in Mexico's land. With Israel as a wedge between South/Central America and the USA, that border would be as good as sealed! We all know how seriously Israel takes border security.

a reply to: redempsh

About once a decade, the Arab states have a case of righteous wrath that boils over into bloodshed, where they decide to kick out the Jews. It isn't "merely the state of Israel" being wiped out. It is non-muslims being removed from the middle east. If a democratic state replaced Israel, and Jews had voting rights, the Arab community would need to overthrow that successor state just as much as they are driven to kill the current one and murder its inhabitants.

You mean like when the Zionist moved in and started killing Palestinians? They want Zionism gone not Jews.

This happened most tellingly in 1967, when each of Israel's neighbors invaded at once, to "drive the Jewish dogs into the sea".

A commonly told lie. Israel started that war when they attacked Egypt.

The Arab states would be fools to enter any kind of agreement with Israel because Israel breaks every agreement it makes.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: dfnj2015
Thats what I have been proposing for years! But we need to do it in Mexico's land. With Israel as a wedge between South/Central America and the USA, that border would be as good as sealed! We all know how seriously Israel takes border security.

>Israel's neighbors beg for peace
>Israel graciously accepts
>Missile lands in empty Israeli field and causes no damage
>Israel cries about how it wants peace but its enemies keep attacking
>Israel responds by bombing hospitals and schools and bulldozing entire neighborhoods outside their borders for "security"
>Israel responds by building more illegal settlements outside their borders for "security"
>Israel's neighbors beg for peace

etc etc...

No peace in the middle east please. the longer it stays at war the longer prophecy is delayed.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry and give the Gaza Strip a break from the brutal trade and border restrictions they have been imposed for so many years.

This sounds DOA. When the Palestinians want peace instead of terror this would be possible. Right now they don't.

originally posted by: trollz
>Missile lands in empty Israeli field and causes no damage
>Israel cries about how it wants peace but its enemies keep attacking

So launching missiles and having bad aim means you aren't attacking?

a reply to: buster2010

No I mean like when Israel wanted peace and bloodthirsty Palestinians demanded all of Israel's land and tried to invade them and lost, and have waged a campaign of war and terror ever since that THEY started.