Non-Biblical Conspiracies That Only Christians Believe in...

Only christians believe in heretic rock bands

Only Christians believe in freemasons.

Lol this thread is funny.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Jesus disagreed with the Pharisees.

The Pharisees /ˈfærəˌsiːz/ were at various times a political party, a social movement, and a school of thought in the Holy Land during the time of Second Temple Judaism. After the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE, Pharisaic beliefs became the foundational, liturgical and ritualistic basis for Rabbinic Judaism.

So who was right them or me, Jesus.

originally posted by: BigBangWasAnEcho
Only Christians believe in freemasons.

Lol this thread is funny.

Who said free masonry??

Though an incredible amount of messianic conspiracies do either tie them for or against some satanic force...

I have heard Muslims argue against evolution, but young earth creationists and flat earthers are definition Christian concepts. Mulsims generally support old earth creationism. I thought for the longest time that YEC and FE were different, but when researching the history of flat earth society, you find that it was started by Christian fundamentalists in the 1800s. Today Christians are the prime target for the FE disinfo campaigns going on now (it's all trolls and YECers basically). Ask any FEer why scientists would hide the shape of the earth and every time they claim it's "to hide the creator". I've never once seen a FEer that isn't Christian, but I'm sure they exist.

Satanic Cults do exist, and Illuminati is definitely not a Christian only conspiracy. I've heard atheists, and theists alike argue for it. Elite pedo rings, I can't really comment on because I haven't researched it beyond the Catholic priest aspect of it. The mainstream media one, goes for both sides. Many liberals say it's a right wing media conspiracy, and many conservatives say it's a left wing media conspiracy, and many tweeners say they both are. The whole anti science thing is a predominantly Christian thing. I've heard many Muslims argue that science is our study of Allah's methods, they don't deny it altogether except some with evolution. The gay agenda is perpetuated by both Muslims and Christians.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
This isn't a conspiracy thread; it's a joke. No credibility in the claims, no proof any of them, just another attempt to try and make Christians look foolish, and the OP look smart. It's not working like you thought it would.

Nearly every video you watch concerning these things will be knee deep in Christianity..

The same people who champion those things on ats, will also be the same ones segueing for the legitimacy of the Bible..

Now 100% anecdotal evidence for sure, but not some left field assertion with no basis in reality..

Not even close to accurate! One, I don't know of ANYONE who believes in a flat earth, and certainly no Christian group that does. Even reading information from web pages claiming to be from such people, I don't see mention of religion.

YEC and Satanists - both of these would imply some basic in Christian beliefs, though it's by no means a given that all who accept either one would be Christian. I know people who believe in evil things, such as Satan, who are NOT Christian at all, and would even describe themselves as pagan. A younger planet, likewise, is more a matter of interpreting evidence, not necessarily religious in basis.

LOTS of people believe the Illuminatti are real, that are NOT Christian. Secret societies, in control of much of the power i the world are a very common conspiracy theory, and to claim that only Christians believe such a thing shows a serious lack of knowledge on the topic. This is a conspiracy site - do some reading!!!

Pedo rings - So wrong. There have been, in recent months alone, MANY busts of actual pedo rings, and it's been KNOWN, in law enforcement, that they exist, and are very difficult to locate and bust. The ONLY debate is whether or not a lot of very powerful people are involved, and even that's not really doubted by most. Too many cases, we have seen influential people busted for this, to deny it.

The MSM sources are owned by a handful of people, literally. As in, only a few people control most media sources in the world. That's a fact. You clearly have internet - look it up!! Most of those people are on the left, politically, as well.

The "gay agenda" - again, no. No one who pays any attention could believe there is no agenda.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
A younger planet, likewise, is more a matter of interpreting evidence, not necessarily religious in basis.

This only works if you cherry pick your own evidence ignoring the rest that show clear slow change over time with no evidence of anything ever being suddenly created. Evidence isn't up for interpretation, and yes denying evidence and misinterpreting it is 100% based on religion (the predetermined conclusion that god exists). If not there would be no reason to deny it or look for alternative interpretations of evidence as if science is some absolutist dogma. That ain't how science works.

The "gay agenda" - again, no. No one who pays any attention could believe there is no agenda.

LOL. What agenda aside from wanting to be treated equally is going on? Homosexuality exists and is a reality of our world. You'd rather pretend it doesn't exist because your religion frowns on it? What do you gain by persecuting them? Christians love to play that victim card after torturing and executing homosexuals and atheists for thousands of years. Now there is some magical agenda because you can't do that crap anymore. GOD FORBID you have to acknowledge them as real and as equals, rather than lesser people.

originally posted by: Barcs

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
A younger planet, likewise, is more a matter of interpreting evidence, not necessarily religious in basis.

This only works if you cherry pick your own evidence ignoring the rest that show clear slow change over time with no evidence of anything ever being suddenly created.

When you can show the pre-flight forms for pterosaurs, get back to me on this.

The "gay agenda" - again, no. No one who pays any attention could believe there is no agenda.

LOL. What agenda aside from wanting to be treated equally is going on? Homosexuality exists and is a reality of our world. You'd rather pretend it doesn't exist because your religion frowns on it? What do you gain by persecuting them? Christians love to play that victim card after torturing and executing homosexuals and atheists for thousands of years. Now there is some magical agenda because you can't do that crap anymore. GOD FORBID you have to acknowledge them as real and as equals, rather than lesser people.

Nope, that BS doesn't fly anymore. There is zero tolerance for any differing opinion from that crowd, and active recruiting in the schools. That has nothing to do with "equal treatment". Serial killers exist, too, and pedophiles, and cannibals, and torturers. Been around for ages, so are we to accept them, as well? Worst excuse, ever.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

1 - YECism - seems to stem from fundamentalits biblical literacy // inerancy

ie - 7 days of creation means 7 24 hour days

so - that goes right back to the bible

2 - i have sadly encounted secular flat eart delusion cultists - so thats not a christians only delusion - its also popular amonst some anti science muslims too

true - christian flat-tards use the bible to " defend " thier delusion

but many flat earth cultists avoid biblical refferences

3 - satan is a trope of the bible // christianity [ some other cults have a " satan " but i digress ] - the key question - why would athiests believe in " satanic cults " ????

4 / 5 // 6 - i do not see these as " christian only " delusions

7 - dogmatic intolerance of homosexuality is a biblical theme


ETA :

1b - can you cite a secularist version of YECism ????? i is not aware of one - and would like to see the " logic " of it - just for entertainment

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Nope, that BS doesn't fly anymore. There is zero tolerance for any differing opinion from that crowd, and active recruiting in the schools. That has nothing to do with "equal treatment". Serial killers exist, too, and pedophiles, and cannibals, and torturers. Been around for ages, so are we to accept them, as well? Worst excuse, ever.

The only BS here is you comparing consenting adults in love getting married, to serial killers, cannibals, torturers and pedos!! YOUR anti gay agenda is clear, because they don't even come close to being comparable. Disgusting attitude you have.

originally posted by: Barcs

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Nope, that BS doesn't fly anymore. There is zero tolerance for any differing opinion from that crowd, and active recruiting in the schools. That has nothing to do with "equal treatment". Serial killers exist, too, and pedophiles, and cannibals, and torturers. Been around for ages, so are we to accept them, as well? Worst excuse, ever.

The only BS here is you comparing consenting adults in love getting married, to serial killers, cannibals, torturers and pedos!! YOUR anti gay agenda is clear, because they don't even come close to being comparable. Disgusting attitude you have.

Doesn't work the way you want it to work. You can't demand something for one group, based on a claim that they are born that way, then complain when someone points out others are as well, and could use the same arguments. There are many who believe some people are born a serial killer, or born a pedo, etc. That's the point. A claim that some action from a person must be accepted by all, because they are "born" to behave that way, doesn't fly.

Deal with it.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Doesn't work the way you want it to work. You can't demand something for one group, based on a claim that they are born that way, then complain when someone points out others are as well, and could use the same arguments. There are many who believe some people are born a serial killer, or born a pedo, etc. That's the point. A claim that some action from a person must be accepted by all, because they are "born" to behave that way, doesn't fly.

You are completely misrepresenting the argument, Lady, nobody actually claims that. I didn't say that they should be treated equally, simply because they were born that way. People say they are born that way because religious bigots falsely claim it's a choice, when it's not. You can't equate all types of people as equal when some of them directly harm others, your argument is completely deceptive and dishonest.

Homosexual marriage. 2 homosexual consenting adults are in love and want to get married. There are no negative affects on the rest of society.

Pedos: Actively HARM CHILDREN and damage them psychologically. Marrying a naive child cannot be compared to 2 adults in love. Tons of negative affects on the child, many sexually abused children never fully recover from that trauma.

Serial killers: Actively harm people in society and murder them out of their own sick enjoyment. Tons of negative affects on others and society. Murder is a federal crime.

Cannibals: Usually this is a result of lack of food sources, but I don't see how eating human flesh compares in any way shape or form to 2 adults in love wanting to tie the knot.

Your argument is pure bunk. The only people with an agenda here are you guys and it's obvious. Completely invalid comparisons.

a reply to: RisenMessiah

I have no idea what you mean...

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

I'm pretty sure they have atleast a pretty good theory for how flying reptiles evolved...

Maybe something that jumps, to something that glides.. to Full scale flight.. maybe..

I'm probubally wrong since we have no modern animals who jump, glide or fly to compare it to... oh never mind yes we do.. lol


Here are some scienticic papers laying it all out..

www.ucmp.berkeley.edu...

www.ucmp.berkeley.edu...

So not really a crazy mystery lol..




So then we shouldn't give the mentally disabled or autistic speacial treatment either huh??


I mean they were born that way , but so were serial killers and pedophiles, so screw them.....right???

Obviously there is exactly a gajillion miles between being born with your brain miswired leading to you being compulsively violent and you being born with a disability that doesn't hurt anyone else..

That breaks the fundamental debate rule of false equivalency..

Conservatism wouldn't even exist if people still studied logic and retoric..

Their entire philosophy is based on things any first year debate student knows don't count..

a reply to: ignorant_ape

3) atheists believe in Christians lol.. I don't see why thinking they are wrong, would stop you from believing in their cults..

obviously they wouldn't actually have superpowers... but I don't think it requires believing in religion , to believe that some cult of but jobs does..


5,6,7 ) that's kinda the point...

But if you watch 99% of the you tube videos on these topics. They will all elude to some satanic conspiracy type stuff..

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Of course you don't.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

I'm pretty sure they have atleast a pretty good theory for how flying reptiles evolved...

Maybe something that jumps, to something that glides.. to Full scale flight.. maybe..

I'm probubally wrong since we have no modern animals who jump, glide or fly to compare it to... oh never mind yes we do.. lol


Here are some scienticic papers laying it all out..

www.ucmp.berkeley.edu...

www.ucmp.berkeley.edu...

So not really a crazy mystery lol..

Note, in all of that, everything is speculation. They have NO fossils of any precursor forms. None. These animals basically appear all of a sudden int he fossil record. Yes, they are a real mystery.

So then we shouldn't give the mentally disabled or autistic speacial treatment either huh??


I mean they were born that way , but so were serial killers and pedophiles, so screw them.....right???

Obviously there is exactly a gajillion miles between being born with your brain miswired leading to you being compulsively violent and you being born with a disability that doesn't hurt anyone else..

That breaks the fundamental debate rule of false equivalency..

Conservatism wouldn't even exist if people still studied logic and retoric..

Their entire philosophy is based on things any first year debate student knows don't count..

Someone born disabled isn't hurting others. Someone who has a mental issue, and is unstable, isn't the same at all. You can't actually be comparing a pedophile to a guy with bad legs. One is a mental/spiritual condition, and the other is physical.