The Origin of White Skin , Blue eyes & Blond Hair

originally posted by: WUNK22
So is blond haired blue eyed white peoples the furthest point so far in evolution??

The white skin is an evolutionary advantage (what you might call "the furthest point so far") only for people who live in geographic regions where there is relatively less sunlight than other regions. Light skin would be an evolutionary disadvantage in sunny equatorial regions, where "dark skin" would be the "farthest evolutionary point so far" for skin color in that region.

Humans need vitamin D, and most humans got vitamin D through sunlight. However, too much sunlight could also cause other problems, so these early humans living in the equatorial regions had more melanin. It was a good balance between getting enough sunlight to produce Vitamin D, but not getting so much sunlight as to be otherwise harmful.

Then Humans moved to other regions -- such as northward and into Europe. There was less sunlight there, so the babies who would be born with the genetic mutation for lighter skin would actually have a genetic advantage (more Vitamin D) than the dark-skinned children. While back in Africa or other equatorial (sunny) regions, this light-skinned mutation would be a Disadvantage, and fewer of those light-skinned children would live long enough lives to have more children of their own. However, in Europe and other northern regions, this means more of the children born with the light-skinned mutation would live longer and reproduce more -- and pass that light-skinned gen along to the next generation.

Do this for "N" number of generations, and the advantageous light-skinned mutation could spread through the population. The number of generations depends on the population size of the region in question.

Somatic characters. Rather, let's talk about the origins of Hitler. He was a non-entity who was put in power by, The Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg mostly. In particular let's recall of how the dutch government and Royals collaborated with Hitler with their citizen Marinus van der Lubbe, to help Hitler's stay in power making sure there would be fires in the Reichstag.

I wonder what the dumbasses, like Rutte and Merkel think they can put fires at right now ! ... to keep the rotten Euronazi intelligence "matrix" running with neurological weapons

This is an interesting thread and from my research you seem to have quite a good theory overall. I was in a similar situation and I realize how old this thread is but if you or anyone see's this, I highly recommend they check out 'Archaix' on TubeYou. Jason Brashears is an incredibly interesting guy... From his whole life experience up until now and to the missing pieces of the puzzle he provides backed up with historical and mathematical evidence. He has solved the Mayan etc calendars dating before our current calendar. I'm not sure about the race part but the Anunna aren't aliens but an ancient, pre-reset (multiples) race. Every 168 years there is the possibility of what is called the 'Phoenix Phenomenon' which is the cause of extreme cataclysms worldwide, all volcanoes erupting, reddish mud and dust (Yes, I know...) falling from the sky in some areas and completely burying cities, countries etc but not all just specific areas. The reason why many or all of us regular folks struggle to follow our true family lineages back very far unlike the "elite" who apparently can back to Vlad the Impaler and so on is due to the fact that most of our ancestors would have experienced a reset on the surface due to the Phoenix Phenomenon. However, the Annuna had a civilization that far surpassed our current one. And due to us not living on a ball, or on a flat earth but in a Simulacrum (Simulation of extreme proportions), they Anunna were able to figure this out thanks to their advanced technology. So they began to run their own simulations to learn more about this holosphere. There was then a war between the "matriarch" who knew of an impending apocalypses if they did not stop trying to decode the world of which they lived (our world but multiples of resets separated). But the larger group refused and thus there was a war at which point the Matriarch and her minority fell and the winning side continued on. Thus, the Phoenix Phenomenon was introduced because the Simulacrum, which is always watching us (all seeing eye?), had to stop further advancement because escape IS possible. The Anunna were caught off guard by the apocalyptical mud flood, floods, volcanic eruptions and so on and many died and much was lost. The survivors learned from this and that is where all of these deep underground cities and tunnels come into play. They were preparing for the next PP. So yes, light skinned highly advanced peoples different from the rest of the populations suddenly appeared with advanced tech with made them appear to be gods because the survivors on the surface lost all of their knowledge, sciences, math and the rest as they were reset. All that they retained was the story of their Matriarch and as this happens again later on more Anunna are lost and more resets cause more surface knowledge to be lost. The surface people were of dark hair and a darker complexion and if one would think about it, having to (later on which I did not get to) stay hiding underground in man made biospheres for 270 years could cause some changes to people such as becoming very white and having lighter eyes (blue/green) which are more sensitive. Anyways, I have written enough.. Check him out. I have always wondered with all of this debate being a milky white, 6 foot 5, dirty blonde with red undertones haired, blue eyes fellah. At one point the minimal survivors of the Anunna had to abandon North America because it was totaled and a write off so the "arcs" they built (big boats, if you will) split up and went to different, pre determined destinations with a group having gone to Sumer and thus become the ANUNNAKI "gods" that we currently hear about. This would make sense as to why there is different groups whether of us split amongst the wilderness or the Basque and so on would be living amongst civilization and if I had to suppose a theory, it would maybe be that the evil, scumbag Anunna who retained the ancient mystery knowledge and continued those ways want to make sure they don't have any cousins left around to figure out who we really are and perhaps give them a run for their money? I can't think of any other reason they would want to wipe us beautiful people out (LOL) especially due to the fact that many of these "elite" are still "pure blood" Anunna bloodlines dating back where as the rest of us would have by now have intermarried and so on.

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That is because Hitler was a fraud. All the people who think he was "real" are fools as are the opposite end of the spectrum folk due to the Hegelian Dialectic situation we are constantly in the middle of. Hitler did not write Mein Kampf, he was nowhere near smart enough and could barley read, if at all when they say he was writing away. He was a bastard R0thschild who's mother was a maid at one of the mansions and when she became pregnant she was sent away back to her home in Austria and the truth of his lineage a secret. How do you think he went from a nobody, complete loser to the most powerful dude in the world backed by that war machine that literally just had their economy crushed after WWI. It was all a setup to destroy Germany and her people. You can find many, many Jew Rabbi's saying this BEFORE WWI. They needed to destroy them and also build up their creation of Communism in the Soviet Union (ALL OF THE BOLSHEVIKS WERE JEWS). Same playbook overall as WWI which was used to destroy the Russian Tsar because the Khazar Ashkenazi NOT REAL JEWS were butt hurt that 1000 years prior their kingdom was conquered by Russia after many warnings to stop their way of life (Kabballah, Talmudism, child sacrifice, murder, theft etc etc... dirty people). *** This was after they were forced to become "Jewish" being sandwiched between the Muslim Ottomans and the Christian Constantinople many years prior. Except they just hide their mystery religions (sound familliar?) within "judaism". But the bible in Hebrew never says the word "JEW" once. And AshkeNAZI JEWS are NOT descended from the ancient Israelites who were also white, blonde/red hair and blue eyes. Go figure. To all the spineless people of today I can see how they may think im a white "supremicist" and go ahead think what you want I dont care but if this were true then the superiority wouldnt be ALL WHITE PEOPLE and would also not be related to genes specifically (maybe a bit of course) but more so to not having survived through hell on earth (The fall of man- One of the resets which almost annihilated the Anunna for the last time). a reply to: Flanker86

Not for all white people. I have milky white skin and blue eyes and unlike many of my friends of the same complexion but different ancestory were getting sun blisters in Mexico even while taking all precautions meanwhile I did nothing of the sort and yes, I got a very nice tan but I didnt even have sunscreen on and unless I am reckless, when I get burnt it turns into a nice tan. Figure that one out. a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

a reply to: jellyrev

my theory is that certain west African genes are triggered when they moved to northern climates and with modern migration we are seeing a similar trigger event with the predominantly Nigerian migrants from West African having blond haired blue eyed babies in families with no known white ancestors, no naughty adultery or colonial past..

Nmachi Ihegboro is perhaps the most well known but for the UK she is certainly not alone or the only one that science has failed to explain away with lazy claims of recessive genes due to colonial adultery while failing to explain why these children appear when the families migrate north..

originally posted by: ancienthistorian
... Interbreeding with other species of humans. ...

The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) states that “all human beings belong to a single species and are descended from a common stock.”​—Declaration on Race and Racial Prejudice, 1978.

If only they would extend that courtesy to the past and stop thinking of Neanderthals* as some kind of "other species of humans".

*: the humanlike fossils of the so-called Neanderthals are often portrayed as proof that a type of ape-man existed. Researchers are beginning to alter their view of what these actually were. In 2009, Milford H. Wolpoff wrote in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology that “Neandertals may have been a true human race.”

Chapter 7: “Ape-Men”—What Were They?

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The fossil record reveals a distinct, separate origin for apes and for humans. That is why fossil evidence of man’s link to apelike beasts is nonexistent. The links really have never been there.

What Did They Look Like?

However, if man’s ancestors were not apelike, why do so many pictures and replicas of “ape-men” flood scientific publications and museums around the world? On what are these based? The book The Biology of Race answers: “The flesh and hair on such reconstructions have to be filled in by resorting to the imagination.” It adds: “Skin color; the color, form, and distribution of the hair; the form of the features; and the aspect of the face​—of these characters we know absolutely nothing for any prehistoric men.”⁠23

Science Digest also commented: “The vast majority of artists’ conceptions are based more on imagination than on evidence. . . . Artists must create something between an ape and a human being; the older the specimen is said to be, the more apelike they make it.”⁠24 Fossil hunter Donald Johanson acknowledged: “No one can be sure just what any extinct hominid looked like.”⁠25

Indeed, New Scientist reported that there is not “enough evidence from fossil material to take our theorising out of the realms of fantasy.”⁠26 So the depictions of “ape-men” are, as one evolutionist admitted, “pure fiction in most respects . . . sheer invention.”⁠27 Thus in Man, God and Magic Ivar Lissner commented: “Just as we are slowly learning that primitive men are not necessarily savages, so we must learn to realize that the early men of the Ice Age were neither brute beasts nor semi-apes nor cretins. Hence the ineffable stupidity of all attempts to reconstruct Neanderthal or even Peking man.”⁠28

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The Human Family

Neanderthal man (named after the Neander district in Germany where the first fossil was found) was undoubtedly human. At first he was pictured as bent over, stupid looking, hairy and apelike. Now it is known that this mistaken reconstruction was based on a fossil skeleton badly deformed by disease. Since then, many Neanderthal fossils have been found, confirming that he was not much different from modern humans. In his book Ice, Fred Hoyle stated: “There is no evidence that Neanderthal man was in any way inferior to ourselves.”⁠51 As a result, recent drawings of Neanderthals have taken on a more modern look.

Another fossil type frequently encountered in scientific literature is Cro-Magnon man. It was named for the locality in southern France where his bones were first unearthed. These specimens “were so virtually indistinguishable from those of today that even the most skeptical had to concede that they were humans,” said the book Lucy.⁠52

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Were There “Cavemen”? (Awake!—1981)

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NEANDERTHAL MAN is also one of the better-known parts of the so-called evolutionary chain. When the first skull portion was found one scientist called it the skullcap of an idiot. Gradually interpretations changed as more bones were discovered. From early reconstructions that showed Neanderthals to be stooped and apelike, with long arms dangling down in front, we now have books that say that “Neanderthal probably did not look very different from some people of today.” One encyclopedia now says that they were “completely human, fully erect.” What a change! Comparing the illustrations in various books will show the adjustments in the claimed appearance of Neanderthal man. And rather than his being an idiot, it is now admitted that Neanderthal man had a larger brain than most modern men!

One reason why some scientists thought of Neanderthal as squat and bent is most interesting. An early skeleton found had bowed legs and a bent form. Of course, since they were looking for apelike creatures to fit their theory, how easy it was to make a mistake! Later, upon further examination, it was shown that the skeleton was deformed due to arthritis!

Nor is that all. In their efforts to make their finds look like a link between ape and man, when Neanderthal’s foot bones were first reconstructed by evolutionists, “they were made to look like an ape’s,” says one book. But the same book admits that the feet actually “look and functioned very [much] like those of modern man.” Look at the picture (opposite page) of feet. Do you think they look enough alike to conclude mistakenly that they are the same?

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The Bible and Creation in the Light of Modern Science (1964)

... In the book New Discoveries in Babylonia About Genesis the author states: “It was expected that the more ancient the period, the more primitive would excavators find it to be, until traces of civilization ceased altogether and aboriginal man appeared. Neither in Babylonia nor Egypt, the lands of the oldest known habitations of man, has this been the case. When civilization appears it is already full grown. . . . In the face of these facts, the slow progress of early man is a disproved assumption, and the idea that an infinitely prolonged period elapsed before civilization appeared cannot be maintained.”

But what of those so-called “prehistoric” men one frequently hears about? Some of such fossil remains are not human at all, but are animal. Others are simply varieties of the human family who were living at the same time “modern-type” man was, just as today there are many sizes and shapes in different living peoples. The Neanderthal man was at one time regarded as “prehistoric,” an ancestor of modern man in the evolution scale, but note what an encyclopedia now says: “Neanderthal man cannot be regarded as an ancestor of modern man. Neanderthal man and men of the modern type . . . must be looked upon as descendants of a common ancestor.” [The Encyclopædia Britannica, 1946, Vol. 14, p. 764.]

Many of these so-called “prehistoric” men were not a “low” type at all. Of those who are called “Cro-Magnon” a university professor stated: “The Cro-Magnon race . . . are conservatively appraised as on a par with the finest stock today intellectually and physically.” Another scientist reported: “These men represent in many ways the finest type the world has ever seen.” Embarrassingly for those who persist in believing the speculation of evolution, Science Digest (April 1961) said: “Since the Cro-Magnon man . . . the human brain has been decreasing in size.” How accurate the simple Genesis account of man’s creation, his fall into sin and subsequent degeneration!

Evolutionists have also combed the earth looking for a people who speak a primitive language, as they feel this would support their theory. The book The Miracle of Languages says: “They have found none. . . . The language of the bushmen [of Australia] and the Sari [of lower California] are elaborate, and show evidences of decay. . . . All languages appear to have descended from one universal parent language.” Science News Letter (Sept. 3, 1955) confirmed this by saying: “There are no primitive languages. The idea that ‘savages’ speak in a series of grunts and are unable to express many ‘civilized’ concepts, is very wrong. . . . Typically, their grammars are much more complex . . . than any modern language.” How well this, too, fits the Biblical account of man’s having one language that was confused after the Flood, resulting in many languages spreading throughout the world, gradually degenerating.

So-called “prehistoric” men exist only in the imagination of those who choose to ignore the facts, because no evidence derived in the entire history of archaeology has sustained the speculations of evolution. It is just as an article in Harper’s Magazine (July 1963) stated: “We have yet to unearth traces of the intelligent apes that gave rise to humanity.” And this article was written in support of evolution! Think of it, after more than a century of frenzied searching by hordes of evolutionists the record of the rocks shouts out louder than ever that “God created”! Evolutionists cannot “unearth traces of the intelligent apes that gave rise to humanity” simply because they never existed, except, as the London Times intimated, ‘in someone’s imagination.’

In the face of such evidence, honesthearted persons will be convinced, but the skeptic never will be, since he wants to cling to the error that suits his purpose. “That is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.” (2 Thess. 2:11, 12) ...

Fact: Depictions in textbooks and museums of the so-called ancestors of humans are often shown with specific facial features, skin color, and amount of hair. These depictions usually show the older “ancestors” with monkeylike features and the ones supposedly closer to humans with more humanlike facial features, skin tone, and hair.

Question: Can scientists reliably reconstruct such features based on the fossilized remains that they find?

Answer: No. In 2003, forensics expert Carl N. Stephan, who works at the Department of Anatomical Sciences, The University of Adelaide, Australia, wrote: “The faces of earlier human ancestors cannot be objectively constructed or tested.” He says that attempts to do so based on modern apes “are likely to be heavily biased, grossly inaccurate, and invalid.” His conclusion? “Any facial ‘reconstructions’ of earlier hominids are likely to be misleading.” (Science and Justice, Vol. 43, No. 4, (2003) section, Forensic Anthropology, “Anthropological Facial ‘Reconstruction’​—Recognizing the Fallacies, ‘Unembracing’ the Errors, and Realizing Method Limits,” by C. N. Stephan, p. 195.)

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

originally posted by: WUNK22
So is blond haired blue eyed white peoples the furthest point so far in evolution??

The white skin is an evolutionary advantage (what you might call "the furthest point so far") only for people who live in geographic regions where there is relatively less sunlight than other regions. Light skin would be an evolutionary disadvantage in sunny equatorial regions, where "dark skin" would be the "farthest evolutionary point so far" for skin color in that region.

Humans need vitamin D, and most humans got vitamin D through sunlight. However, too much sunlight could also cause other problems, so these early humans living in the equatorial regions had more melanin. It was a good balance between getting enough sunlight to produce Vitamin D, but not getting so much sunlight as to be otherwise harmful.

Then Humans moved to other regions -- such as northward and into Europe. There was less sunlight there, so the babies who would be born with the genetic mutation for lighter skin would actually have a genetic advantage (more Vitamin D) than the dark-skinned children. While back in Africa or other equatorial (sunny) regions, this light-skinned mutation would be a Disadvantage, and fewer of those light-skinned children would live long enough lives to have more children of their own. However, in Europe and other northern regions, this means more of the children born with the light-skinned mutation would live longer and reproduce more -- and pass that light-skinned gen along to the next generation.

Do this for "N" number of generations, and the advantageous light-skinned mutation could spread through the population. The number of generations depends on the population size of the region in question.

A Very Well Thought Out Presentation concerning the Possible Origins of the Diversity of Races here on Earth . I myself would lean towards this Explanation .

a reply to: ancienthistorian

YEAH,......... NOAH

originally posted by: WUNK22
So is blond haired blue eyed white peoples the furthest point so far in evolution??

White skin is a mutation which occurred in one person around 10,000 years ago somewhere in West Asia. It was not the furthest point, but an accident.

Most mutations are unsuccessful. Many result in a non-viable organism. This one was successful for people who lived where there is less sunlight than the latitudes in which humans had evolved until then.

The gene for skin color controls almost nothing else.