Assad crossed many Red Lines but I aint Broadcasting our Strategy!

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: The GUT
Surprised at Trump I admit. I thought he knew better. Assad doing such a low value--militarily speaking that is--attack doesn't compute. Guess our economy would collapse without that pipeline through Syria.

Assad’s Death Warrant

“Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative Bashar Assad was a feasible path to achieving the shared objective of completing the Qatar/Turkey gas link. In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria.”

— Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Why the Arabs don’t want us in Syria,

He didn't hesitate for one second to approve the KeystoneXL why would he be any different here? Why is oil still so damn relevant *shades eyes from truck glaring through window* (it's a work truck).

I have given him enough time, I don't believe the Russian garbage but I do believe he's like everyone else to sit behind that desk.

I'm surprised Assad had held out so long even with the help of Russia. Wasn't the fall of Damascus foretold? Given the ramifications to Russia if it did, it wouldn't bode well for any of us I'm afraid.

Assad survives because he has the support of the majority of his people.

He won't be going anywhere unless another country forces him out

The West likes to portray it as a "revolution" but in reality it is an insurrection orchestrated by foreign powers using religious extremists. The same groups America fought in Iraq, now receiving arms and other aid from America.

What a tragic state of affairs.

a reply to: Ohanka

I never suggested it would come from an internal struggle. But yes, I agree.

Assad didnt bomb civilians with chemical weapons.
Assad and the military are winning the war, they've driven ISIS out of many cities and with Russian help are winning.

Why? What would they benefit from gassing their own people? Its ludicrous.

Now, the rebels have used gas before in Iraq and Syria and Russia has found laboratories before in Syria.

Both Russia and Syria have said this was a warehouse where the rebels contained their gasses and it was hit in an air strike.

That is much more logical.. but the TV and news media want to completely ignore it.

Whats very concerning for me, is Trump seems to be ignoring it too.. or perhaps he believes it to be true but cannot acknowledge it just yet.

a reply to: The GUT

Or it could have to do with

A local subsidiary of the New York-listed company Genie Energy — which is advised by former vice president Dick Cheney and whose shareholders include Jacob Rothschild and Rupert Murdoch — will now have exclusive rights to a 153-square mile radius in the southern part of the Golan Heights. That geographic location will likely prove controversial. Israel seized the Golan Heights in the Six-Day War in 1967 and annexed the territory in 1981. Its administration of the area — which is not recognized by international law — has been mostly peaceful until the Syrian civil war broke out 23 months ago. "This action is mostly political – it’s an attempt to deepen Israeli commitment to the occupied Golan Heights," Israeli political analyst Yaron Ezrahi told FT. "The timing is directly related to the fact that the Syrian government is dealing with violence and chaos and is not free to deal with this problem.”

www.businessinsider.com...

Assad and russia hit a munititions depot with their bombs that caused the isis-stored chemical weapons to go kabloom

a reply to: Stevemagegod

Allow me to refresh your memory, Obama was quite eager to intervene but the tensions were quite high between Russia and the US.
It would also have played in the hands of ISIS if the US would have intervened.
So luckely Russia prevented this from happening and instead an agreement was reached on removing the WMD's.
Mark my words, Russia will not change its stance, hence Trump has a choice, either back off or risk a war with Russia.
Just like in 2013.

Drives the LIBERAL media INSANE-CRAZY that President Trump doesn't tell them what his short-term strategies are for Syria, Korea, ObamaCare, Rice, Hillary. He flat out tells them to wait and see.

My fellow Americans, we are BLESSED with a VERY SMART and WISE PRESIDENT! (finally)

If Trump falls for or goes along with this for whatever reason then to hell with him. I voted for Trump, not Neocon Killary.

We in the US do not need Syria. Our military is there illegaly to do nothing but try to make the Saudis even more wealthy and powerful for the long run, which is crazy. This has all gone way beyond "providing security" for the Saudis as part of the petrodollar agreement. The Saudis are demanding empire building these days and they are demographically invading Europe with Muslims. Some have passed around a "greater Israel" map but I believe such a thing is disinformation and it is the Saudis with ambitions on all that territory.

Their strategy is Empire building, not security. They want to stabilize their domains by bloody depopulation with war and/or dumping 'surplus people' on Europe. They want an Empire tomorrow and Europe to be part of it the day after that. Their now very clear ambitions are way beyond the spirit of any agreement we had with them for security.

What should be happening instead is that as their oil reserves decline, so should their importance. We should not be setting them up to run our country from here to forever by building them an Empire in the Middle East.

I don't need the "petrodollar." By making the dollar farcically strong with trickery, they have put tens of millions out of work in the US, and doomed millions more with two low paying service jobs. The paradox of the strong petrodollar is a lower standard of living for most Americans because America is too expensive to do most things for itself, and thus it's only great at the top.

I will never support the Saudis. They and the Bushes did 9/11. If Trump is just going to be another Bush/Killary anyway than to hell with him and he will have ZERO support to do anything as a President as he loses those who voted for him by governing as Killary anyway. I mean it's not even 4 full months in yet, who the heck do they think they're fooling?!?

it was proven 100% Beyond a Reasonable doubt that Assad crossed that Red Line by using Chemical Weapons on his own people.

You still think Assad used chemical weapons on his own people? hmm

I dont know what to believe.

That didn't take long.

The CIA probably knows who did what.

No matter who bombed people with Chemicals...it was pretty stupid for the President to think the atrocities are more important now that he is President than they were when Obama was President.

I lost some respect for the President today.

Trump is just telling the uninformed CNN viewers what they want to hear and that's it. CNN and the other MSM are already painting Assad as the enemy. The german media bombards us with photos of gassed children too. There was a weird photo on /pol/ that showed the White Helmets assisting in "helping" children that got gassed but they forgot to wear protective gear like gloves. I'm no expert on Sarine but that looked highly suspicious.

This is also a rather convenient distraction from the whole Rice fiasco. This smells like a setup and i trust Trump that he is just playing along. People seem to underestimate Trump and he is fully aware of that fact. The war mongers on both sides are pure evil and i don't believe in coincidences.

He's not broadcasting a strategy because he doesn't have the attention span to remember what his advisors are telling him about the strategy they're developing.

This fool still comes across as a complete idiot like he did all the way through the campaign.

He has to tell congress to get approval and funds so it leaks anyway.

originally posted by: Stevemagegod

...it was proven 100% Beyond a Reasonable doubt that Assad crossed that Red Line by using Chemical Weapons on his own people.

Proven by who? It didn't make sense for him to do it then, and it makes even less sense for him to do it now.

a reply to: Xeven

Trump will continue to lose support and respect unless he changes his foreign policy. I love trump. He was trying to get along with russia. Now he wants to start a war-mongering campaign against iran, nkorea, china. Just stop mr prez

We voted you for peace and draining the swamp. Not team-america world police

At the risk of sounding lie an echo chamber I agree with the thinking Assad isn't responsible.

I mean come on, even if he did the first attack, which I highly doubt, he survived it, no-one could be that stupid to try it again.

That said are the US that silly to make the same play?

Is Trump's stance in line with Bannon's ideology with this, or could this have played a role in his resignation?

Just throwing it out there, not saying there is any connection, as I would have thought the two would be on the same page with this, but the timing is interesting.

All President Trump has to do is...NOTHING. The news cycles move so fast, that another MEGA-URGENT-MONSTER-YUGE story will captivate the news before FRIDAY. Guaranteed!

a reply to: solargeddon

No this has nothing to do with Bannon. He already did his part and paved the way for Rice to expose herself. That's just another nail in Obamas coffin.

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: The GUT

Or it could have to do with

A local subsidiary of the New York-listed company Genie Energy — which is advised by former vice president Dick Cheney and whose shareholders include Jacob Rothschild and Rupert Murdoch — will now have exclusive rights to a 153-square mile radius in the southern part of the Golan Heights. That geographic location will likely prove controversial. Israel seized the Golan Heights in the Six-Day War in 1967 and annexed the territory in 1981. Its administration of the area — which is not recognized by international law — has been mostly peaceful until the Syrian civil war broke out 23 months ago. "This action is mostly political – it’s an attempt to deepen Israeli commitment to the occupied Golan Heights," Israeli political analyst Yaron Ezrahi told FT. "The timing is directly related to the fact that the Syrian government is dealing with violence and chaos and is not free to deal with this problem.”

www.businessinsider.com...

Yeah, all of our co-conspirators, I mean allies, have their own reasons for hitting Syria, it's certainly multifaceted; Israel, Saudis...it gets a complicated mess for sure.

originally posted by: solargeddon
At the risk of sounding lie an echo chamber I agree with the thinking Assad isn't responsible.

I mean come on, even if he did the first attack, which I highly doubt, he survived it, no-one could be that stupid to try it again.

That said are the US that silly to make the same play?

Is Trump's stance in line with Bannon's ideology with this, or could this have played a role in his resignation?

Just throwing it out there, not saying there is any connection, as I would have thought the two would be on the same page with this, but the timing is interesting.

Very interesting point and worthy of your question. It plops right into place like it might fit.