Linda Moulton Howe - Update

a reply to: Lysergic

Not picking on you personally just reading all comments.

If I decide to sell a book, do a tour or attend conferences it would have to be for pay. And at the end of the day, I will have earned it.

They say if you do what you love in life you never work a single day.

Linda obviously loves what she does and the people who support her Work, appreciate in kind.

Can you imagine all the witnesses she goes to? They do not pay her to come to them. Just one example of her validation.

If she were a snake oil salesman, she would have been ripped to shreds long ago.

Ms. Howe has stood the test of time and above all else her heart is direct and true to her life mission of exposure and disclosure.

It is OK to make money at your job, for your time and your input to this extremely hot subject. That alone, the credibility she has had the courage to stand tall through more lashings that many many others could not have survived, is testament to her right to earn a living. Shes not rich, not an egoistic showoff, she deserves every penny she can eek out of the nay sayers and believers alike.

a reply to: BigEyes

It was, and I was thinking she was a charlatan at that time. One look into her eyes and I knew she was a kindred and kind spirit.

a reply to: BigEyes

100 % agree.

originally posted by: SeaYote
a reply to: BigEyes
When discussing her theory that the nonhumans may have manipulated the genetic development of homo sapiens . . .

I am a member of gaia.com and have been following Linda's series there.

The episodes are recorded and the date of the recording is not supplied by the producers, which is a flaw that I have emailed them about, because I think serious journalists tell the public the date of presentations if it is not obvious from context.

Anyway, I am under the impression that Linda is wondering to herself, and has not answered the question yet, why are ETs abducting humans to acquire their genetic material?

Do you, personally, have any thoughts on that?

a reply to: LiberateEarth

First of all, I'm just another seeker, don't lay claim to anything more than my insatiable curiosity and a few unexplainable first hand experiences to stoke the flame ---

But here goes: I keep kicking that question around as well- Why would they want to mess with our DNA? What's in it for them?
It must have some huge value to them; they've been playing the long game (eons) and it sure is a lot of effort. My conclusion is that we have within us something of unique value and power. Our physical containers are part of it, but not the whole of it.

I believe it has something to do with our souls - how they plug into this material world, maybe our wildcard unpredictable creativity? There is a pattern in our DNA - I believe that pattern carries over into our souls --- even when we die, it doesn't cease to exist, it gets recycled - reincarnated --- it is immortal. I think they have lost their own species immortality and it scares the crap out of them.

They do not, repeat - DO NOT! want US to get to the truth of ourselves, the creative power of ourselves (even if my current theory as to why they play genetics is wrong, this I know is absolutely true) - thus the multi-layered BS lies and deceit. They want us locked up in the material world, distracted with material wealth and self centered obsessions, distractions, and addictions. Deep down, we know better, we keep trying to reach beyond - with prayer, meditation, the overwhelming beauty of nature, LOVE baby, they aint got LOVE! But the instant you start glowing, here comes the next guru, the next religious movement; a construct with rigid rules and hierarchy. They don't want us to know that each and every person can go directly to the source (a real God connection). Religious wars, "my god's better than your god" -- I believe they've kept it going.

But, now, as we have gained more and more technological mastery, we have better means of detecting them, they can't just show up and do magical wizard shows or a scary ass-ed god show with us. Whether, as LMH and others theorize, we may be genetically modified by alien interlopers, or we evolved on our own --- we contain something precious that they want very badly.

Warning - I also believe that they would see us terminated (or conveniently self-destruct), before they would have us find out the truth and take control of our own full potential. Destroying our own planet, through pollution, nuclear war, playing around with our DNA without remotely comprehending the consequences.
Today from the Associated Press:
"The United States signaled a tougher strategy toward North Korea on Friday that leaves open the possibility of pre-emptive military action and rejects talks with the communist nation until it gives up its weapons of mass destruction.

"Let me be very clear: the policy of strategic patience has ended," said Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. "We are exploring a new range of diplomatic, security and economic measures. All options are on the table." REALLY? Tillerson's only been Sec of State less than 3 months and it's tome to throw in the towel on those whack heads in North Korea? Is it really worth all out nuclear war?

We are getting close to the truth, expect things to heat up.

a reply to: dreamingawake

Dreamingawake, you posted something about the poster hoaxing this thread, then you deleted what you said? Whats up?

It appears that "Big Eyes" has no history here at ATS.

If this was a hoax of a post, that is rather suspicious ....what, throw out some live bait and see who shows up?

Regardless of their intent, I think the conversation was worth having.

Love and green beer to all and to all a good night.

a reply to: dreamingawake

Yep...and I dont think most folks realize how long she's been at this. I admire her dedication.

Thanks

originally posted by: SeaYote
a reply to: dreamingawake

Dreamingawake, you posted something about the poster hoaxing this thread, then you deleted what you said? Whats up?

It appears that "Big Eyes" has no history here at ATS.

If this was a hoax of a post, that is rather suspicious ....what, throw out some live bait and see who shows up?

Regardless of their intent, I think the conversation was worth having.

Love and green beer to all and to all a good night.

Didn't want to get between the mods and that issue.
Sad it's in hoax, happy it was discussed at least(not sure where it will go now) but guess something else went on.

originally posted by: SeaYote
a reply to: LiberateEarth

I think they have lost their own species immortality and it scares the crap out of them.

What a riddle this is.

Since presumably we all come from the same source, if they could lose their immortality, so could we!

(Or, am I misunderstanding what you've said?)

It's hard to discuss things in a sincere manner in the HOAX forum, but this thread has such a good OP, in my personal opinion, it's hard to let it go.

Good video's thanks for posting them.

Can someone tell me why this thread is in 'Hoax'?

originally posted by: BigEyes
a reply to: LiberateEarth

Lamb claims that the abductees made a soul contract with the et's before coming to human life on earth to be abducted and be experimented on. I cannot say yay or nay to that, but with regards to my own experiences and what I know, I have NOT agreed to that, fXXX those buggers.

I agree with you. I don’t buy the “soul contract” argument.

originally posted by: BigEyes
a reply to: LiberateEarth

And there's no such thing as an ascension. Increase of awarness and consciousness, yes, but no ascension - that happens at physical death. This dimension in this physicality will always be, we're stuck in this vibration/frequency. But we CAN make this Earth a healthier place and a better home for us.

I know that sux that we not will ascend in physicality, took me years to accept, broke my heart. But that's Earth life.

I am interested in what Barbara Lamb said in response to Linda’s question regarding “ascension,” as related to what our sun is doing. She spoke about frequencies, in the sense of different dimensions in the universe.

This part of the discussion begins at 41:16:

a reply to: LiberateEarth

LiberateEarth, Thanks for your thoughtful consideration. It's hard to find people to engage in off the wall topics like this --- felt scorched to see the hoax stamp. Damn.

But back to your wondering whether we too could lose our immortality. I think we could. I do believe that all life comes from a creative source - God (but I don't buy the dude on a cloud with a long white beard). I think the risk to all living things is that the connection/energy/vibration can become corrupted. My current notion is that our physical beings, through DNA pattern is key to the actual mechanism by which our beings/souls reincarnate and stay alive. That spark of creation/God gives us the power to create and manifest --- I think our's is still young and vibrant - that is what the dying vulture species are trying to capture.

I know this is fuzzy, I'm not a physicist, but I believe there is a scientifically provable basis for this. We need to survive and fully understand this in order to be free and take our "grown up" place in the universe.

I too would like a brief explaination why this is in the Hoax Bin. Obviously there were some post exchanges that are now deleted, which leaves anyone here that was following this thread (like myself), and not briefly being able to read those posts, in a quandry "?" I think it needs an explanation so that some do not think the Hoax label is thrown agains LMH's content. Thanks.

I too would like a brief explaination why this is in the Hoax Bin.

a reply to: SeaYote

Maybe all vibratory rates somehow encompass both physicality and spirit (I'll use that word instead of "soul"), and it's okay if species die out because they're not the important part of life anyway; spirit is.

a reply to: LiberateEarth

I'm thinking it's all transitory and ever changing, but from my very basic comprehension of thermodynamics, no energy gets destroyed, yet everything winds down into a state of stillness.and then what happens, eh? :

"The first law, also known as Law of Conservation of Energy, states that energy cannot be created or destroyed in an isolated system. The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system always increases."

www.boundless.com... namics-496-3601/

An even closer look at the 2nd Law: (this from physics.bu.edu... )

"The second law of thermodynamics is one of the most fundamental laws of nature, having profound implications. In essence, it says this:

The second law - The level of disorder in the universe is steadily increasing. Systems tend to move from ordered behavior to more random behavior.

One implication of the second law is that heat flows spontaneously from a hotter region to a cooler region, but will not flow spontaneously the other way. This applies to anything that flows: it will naturally flow downhill rather than uphill.

If you watched a film forwards and backwards, you would almost certainly be able to tell which way was which because of the way things happen. A pendulum will gradually lose energy and come to a stop, but it doesn't pick up energy spontaneously; an ice cube melts to form a puddle, but a puddle never spontaneously transforms itself into an ice cube; a glass falling off a table might shatter when it hits the ground, but the pieces will never spontaneously jump back together to form the glass again. Many processes are irreversible, and any irreversible process increases the level of disorder. One of the most important implications of the second law is that it indicates which way time goes - time naturally flows in a way that increases disorder.

The second law also predicts the end of the universe: it implies that the universe will end in a "heat death" in which everything is at the same temperature. This is the ultimate level of disorder; if everything is at the same temperature, no work can be done, and all the energy will end up as the random motion of atoms and molecules."

a reply to: SeaYote

Are you quoting mainstream science?