Does the conspiracy crowd choose the president????

It is common knowledge that he have been a cycle of 2 terms of democrats then 2 terms of republicans.

Honestly, this is one of the main reasons I've thought the elections are all Rigged.

What is the mathematical probubility a trend like that could Continue as long as it has?!?!


Can't be very high....


Add the fact that the conspiracy crowd tends to side with those out of power....see your illuminati type conspiracy theories only work if your guy isn't running things... If your guy is president , then the only real option is that he is in on it too.

So what's the chance the conspiracy crowd floating back and forth every 8 years , is really the deciding factor in who wins the presidency???

originally posted by: JoshuaCox


It is common knowledge that he have been a cycle of 2 terms of democrats then 2 terms of republicans.

Honestly, this is one of the main reasons I've thought the elections are all Rigged.

What is the mathematical probubility a trend like that could Continue as long as it has?!?!


Can't be very higher....


Add the fact that the conspiracy crowd tends to side with those out of power....see your illuminati type conspiracy theories only work if your guy isn't running things... If your guy is president , then the only real option is that he is in on it too.

So what's the chance the conspiracy crowd floating back and forth every 8 years , is really the deciding factor in who wins the presidency???

The cycle was broken in 1988 with the election of GHW Bush, and then again with the election of Clinton, making him a one-term President.

Carter was also a one-termer.

Some of the cycle probably has to do with the Twenty Second Amendment passed in 1947, limiting a President to two 4-year terms.

In the old days the "Conspiracy Crowd" rightly distrusted ALL government regardless of party. However, what we now experience at ATS is that we've become factionalized far, far too much.

a reply to: Gryphon66

My real point is , how many of the people who float back and forth are conspiracy people?

Are there enough moderates and party affiliates who swap sides, or is it the conspiracy crowd??

I guess it has just been highlighted for me through my experience since W was in office.


The conspiracy crowd was intensely anti republican with 911 conspiracies saturating our culture, then Obama took office and it didn't take long for the vast majority of conspiracy types to swap sides.

Well since trump won in large part by activating the conspiracy crowd, will we see the same trend?

a reply to: JoshuaCox

The illusion of two parties produced the swing. You think its either parties 'fault' the other 'screwed things up' this bad?

Then vote and go back to sleep, lol.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: JoshuaCox

The illusion of two parties produced the swing. You think its either parties 'fault' the other 'screwed things up' this bad?

Then vote and go back to sleep, lol.

That's the accepted reason, but I'm not so sure..

a reply to: JoshuaCox

It is one glaring piece of evidence the conspiracy 'nutters' (like me) cite. The two-party system keeps us divided and infighting against one another, so they can plan and carry out wars and rob us blind . They all go one way together for that.

Its supposed to be one representative government, elected of, by and for the people, not two parties 'fighting'.

They are supposed to represent us, and protect us from the corporations who have taken real control.

That the conspiracy, thats what they don't want you figuring out. Congratulations, you just woke up.

all the two party system does is tell TPB what they can get away with.
they tell one party you say this, then the other party say this, then watch the reaction of the public and base their laws and plans accordingly.

it backfired on them this time. they didn't expect the turnout that trump had.

no, the electors do

originally posted by: intrptr

The two-party system keeps us divided and infighting against one another

The two-party system is the product of our division, not the cause of it.

originally posted by: syrinx high priest
no, the electors do

....Based on popular Citizen votes.

Citizen votes are influenced heavily by the Big3 media networks.

Big3 TV networks have at least 5x the viewership as cable TV.

It comes down to who believes/disbelieves the news stories and PC TV Primetime series shows.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Conspiracy theorist are
A) skeptical of big government
B) skeptical of those with power

Both parties increased the size of the spy state, both sides war. Both things conspiracy theorist do not like.
The main branches are
A) The globalist conspiracy, a collectivist corporatist society
B) The military intelligence industrial complex

Is this site even conspiracy theorist anymore? It is odd reading people wanting snowden and assange imprisoned on a site like this.

ATM a lot of conspiracy theorist think we got our guy in power. Is this true? remains to be seen.
The battle with the media and the deep state does give it some credibility.

Trump is also giving credibility to some globalist conspiracy, using immigration of alien cultures to balkanize countries, justify police states, and weaken its collective spirit as a nation. Countries are hiding tons of demographic data so we can not see the truth of these new immigrant outcomes.
We see these globalist getting very very angry that immigration will change, and the differences of culture are being exposed.
A house divided(multiculturalism) fights among itself, it is weak against the true internal and external threats.

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: intrptr

The two-party system keeps us divided and infighting against one another

The two-party system is the product of our division, not the cause of it.

The division is across the board intentionally planned this way from eaalry in childhood development. Religion; Good and Bad, god and the devil, heaven and hell, class: lower and upper classmanship, testing and school grades, sports, games, Wealth: rich and poor, patriotism, nationalism, any ism, (specially racism), designed that way to set us against each other from a to z.

This is not our product, it is the playing field designed for us.

Whose 'side' are you on? Pick...

...or, realize this dichotomy, hypocrisy and false paradigm for what it is.

A cage for your mind.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

it backfired on them this time. they didn't expect the turnout that trump had.

You mean it worked on you. You think Trump winning was unplanned, he was going to fix america, yet its business as usual.

And if you don't see that from the alternative news, then you're willfully blind, not paying attention, or a representative of the state.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: syrinx high priest
no, the electors do

....Based on popular Citizen votes.

Citizen votes are influenced heavily by the Big3 media networks.

Big3 TV networks have at least 5x the viewership as cable TV.

It comes down to who believes/disbelieves the news stories and PC TV Primetime series shows.

sorry, sometimes my sarcasm comes out too literally

a reply to: jellyrev

I think this website shows (to a point) that there isn't one type of conspiracy theorist, other than someone who questions everything; questioning big government is fine, but there are many conspiracies of private companies that would be preferred by a small government.

Wikileaks is a good example, they have released lots of valuable information that allow us to question CIA, USA, etc, but that doesn't mean they aren't open to questions. There are still many questions I have about them - would they release Russian secrets, Trump's secrets? Is there an agenda?

a reply to: JoshuaCox

So what's the chance the conspiracy crowd floating back and forth every 8 years , is really the deciding factor in who wins the presidency???

Some of us are in the center and do not plan on moving away from it. We are watching events closely, and not really siding with any politician. some of us do however, favor the truth, which is why we intervene time and time again. Problem is, there isn't really anything "grave" about trump yet except circumstantial evidences suggesting he is a Jesuit.

But that is not concrete as of yet.

No "back and forth" from me though. Least not on this issue.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

As an ACTUAL conspiracy "theorist," since I view both the Republicans and Democrats as complicit, I am not sure I agree with your assessment that conspiracy "theorists" influence it much at all. Granted I am sure that some may side with one or the other, I'm not sure that applies to most you would identify as a conspiracy "theorist." Conspiracy "theorists," at least the ones I have ever been acquainted with, view the whole system as being suspect regardless of what party has the reigns.