Report: 15 Million People Will Lose Health Coverage Under GOP Repeal Bill

a reply to: Southern Guardian
When Obamacare came into existance,4 million were left uninsured,that weren't before,this was a failure to begin with,it was designed to have middle class cover poor and sickly,after all the taxes we pay,why should the taxpayer be burdened,how did that help anyone but the poor and sick?,it didn't

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: Southern Guardian
When Obamacare came into existance,4 million were left uninsured,that weren't before,this was a failure to begin with,it was designed to have middle class cover poor and sickly,after all the taxes we pay,why should the taxpayer be burdened,how did that help anyone but the poor and sick?,it didn't

silly moralized argument.

the highest increases to cover the subsidies occurred in households earning over $200,000.

it covered more than the sick and poor, it covered small businesses and self employed entrepreneurs trying to achieve the american dream. they always had the ability to purchase insurance directly, but ACA made it somewhat affordable

linky

it also covered college kids just starting out on their parents plan because they can't get real jobs because of the 2008 collapse .

if you want to shake your fists at wasted tax dollars, why not look at the most profitable companies on earth getting subsidized profits ? where does that money go , offshore accounts? why do they need taxpayer dollars if they already make staggering profits?

most of those huge conglomerates put mom and pops out of business.....or onto the ACA

ironic, aint it?

a reply to: Southern Guardian

They are still in process of looking at different avenues,this report done by liberal media,with speculation at best for proof,what else is new,more lies by whiny liberals

a reply to: Southern Guardian

They are still in process of looking at different avenues,this report done by liberal media,with speculation at best for proof,what else is new,more lies by whiny liberals

a.) Look into price gouging in the medical and pharmaceutical industries
b.) Fix public education to actually teach kids real skills not just how to pose for pictures at pep rallies (like pre-med classes in high school.. wowwwww THERE'S an idea!)
c.) Stop forcing this communist healthcare mandatory mafia BS on the people and allow the free markets to work

And most importantly, if you people would dispense with the crying and insults and start thinking about practical solutions we could have a shot a a sane world for once in 4.5 billion years. (Everyone knows the T-Rex empire lost control of their reactors and weapons, hence the demise of the dinosaurs.)

CU Next Thread

Oh, by the way... Oblammy, Oscammy, Ohammy, Oshammy, Ocrammy, Owhammy.... it's still, "BYE FELICIA!"

originally posted by: mymymy
a reply to: ColdWisdom

Quit relying on the government to survive.

Then never, ever ask any of these people to defend this country

No one does. It's why we have a volunteer military, and the draft hasn't been activated in decades.

originally posted by: mikell
Another report says about 25 million more jobs on the way so they can get it at work and not be taxed for it. Of course that would require them to WORK.

You do realise that a hell of lot of jobless people WANT to work right? Would you march around the rust belt telling people in areas which were once centres of industry that they're lazy bums? Plenty of people have ended up jobless as a result of technological advances, automation, AI, old industries dying off, steel being imported etc.

The attitude of 'hurr durr all jobless people are scroungers and should just get a job' is sickening. I sincerely hope you never get made redundant and are subsequently left with no other option than welfare.

Oh and lol at 25 MILLION jobs. Where might those be coming from?

a reply to: Southern Guardian

15 million people on the ACA qualify for Medicaid. I'm sure they can go there rather than have two of the same programs with twice the cost. It's seem redundant and stupid don't you think?

i have to say one thing thats nice this time around is that we actually get to see whats being proposed rather then pushing it through before anyone can even read the damn bill.

This is going to blow up in their faces because it's a cost spiral that is one month of no coverage away from being out of control.

This aaaallll could be easily fixed if the retards would just go single payer AND hard cap prices. So easy the damn Canucks and Brits do it, but noooo, we think we KNOW better. 'Murica, DERP.

And we're f#ing retards of a much higher magnitude for not pushing for single payer en mass like we should. Sometimes, folks, in certain situations? Competition exists to f# you. Welcome to American healthcare, it's living proof.

Trump said they would replace it with something 'better' and less expensive.

With 15 Million people posed to lose coverage, it is already "NOT better".

Trump is saying there are two states that only have one option, and about to be three, and might even be one with NO options if Humana pulls out.

Then focus on fixing those three states!

You don't have an undertaking as monumental as ACA, and expect it to roll out flawlessly, and neither will whatever these republicans come up with. PERHAPS they could mend some of the holes, instead of trying to redo the entire program. We all know it's needs tweaking, Hillary even admitted it, so let them tweak it and stop pretending they know how to "make it better AND cheaper". They don't.

My my. What a mess.

When Trump get's it all settled out, the pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies and health care providers will all come out great in the financial department....the American working man will still be stuck with outrageous bills.

You wanted a businessman...are you surprised that big business isn't being given preferential treatment?

Sounds more like 'the free loaders, scam artists and illegals' are going to loose their free health care.

Obamacare didn't make it better. It made it worse for all of us. Plus penaltues. I understand the penalties and taxes are going away. But Progressives never saw a tax they didn't like. After all it's on the Communist Manifesto.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Obamacare didn't make it better. It made it worse for all of us. Plus penaltues. I understand the penalties and taxes are going away. But Progressives never saw a tax they didn't like. After all it's on the Communist Manifesto.

So how would you pay for a health care system that incorporates Christian principals of taking care of one's fellow man? Buttons?

originally posted by: amazing
Those morons better not mess up my coverage. I just checked this morning...pre existing condition is still in effect.

You would think the idiots in congress would be trying to make health care affordable, not take it away from us.

It's not possible, health insurance is a failed concept. It can only remain affordable if it's exclusive. The chance of getting hurt or sick is too high among the population.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Millions lost their insurance when Obamacare was enacted.

But that wasn't the fault of the feds. It was the fault of the states who denied health coverage to their own people, not over any actual reason but out of partisian bs. Those same states who denied coverage to people are now being given billions as a free handout in this legislation.

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
I'm curious about something, guys.

What did all those 20 million people who were insured for the first time under Obamacare do before they got coverage?

How did these people survive before their savior Barry Obama bequeathed unto them the Affordable Care Act?

Are people really going to lose their lives because of the GOP's repeal/replace plan?

Went bankrupt and lost their life savings, homes, and any assets they could have passed on to their children.

It was very common, it's still common.... just less so.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Southern Guardian

This attrition can be averted by activating a government funded high-risk pool for low-income Americans and for those with serious medical conditions.

Withholding a few billion $$ that we give to countries who leech off of America, would fund much of this pool. America First.

But the Republican plan has no intention of funding high risk pools. High risk pools require large subsidies, about 178 billion per year. Are you aware of how much the Republicans plan to subsidize them? $1 billion per year.

High risk pools are by their nature extremely expensive, because that's the group where the majority of payouts are going to come from. They also don't solve anything, because as you age and get sick, you move to a high risk pool naturally. Meaning eventually everyone ends up in a high cost insurance plan at the time they most need insurance to be affordable.