The Dark Rigidity of Fundamentalist Rural America

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
Growing up in a Fundamental Christian home and being a Fundie for 35+ years, I can attest to this.

Yea but you were not the whole culture man. That is you are playing into the narrative which is flawed by assuming that fundies represent the whole of culture outside the city. This is stupid. This thread is bigot weak man.

a reply to: Logarock

My dad was an evangelist and we travelled all over the USA. And I have been to Christian camps (and yes they were exactly like the movie "Jesus Camp").

So yes it is the whole culture. If there are Fundamental Christians that are different from the rest then they are in the minority.

BTW your avatar is ironic.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

My dad was an evangelist and we travelled all over the USA. And I have been to Christian camps (and yes they were exactly like the movie "Jesus Camp").

Ack. I'm so glad you had a chance to climb out of that box.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Logarock

My dad was an evangelist and we travelled all over the USA. And I have been to Christian camps (and yes they were exactly like the movie "Jesus Camp").

A neighbor talked my mom in to letting me go to her church camp and she paid for it.

Talk about a shock. I brought the usual camping gear, shorts, t-shirts, etc - - and one dress - - cuz they said I had to.

No shorts allowed. Pants OK - - except for when eating and the revival tent. Needless to say I wore the same clothes for a week.

Yes, it was Holy Roller, speaking in tongues, the whole She-bang. I was 12. Fortunately, I was somewhat pragmatic and chocked it up to having an Experience. One never to be repeated.

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
Growing up in a Fundamental Christian home and being a Fundie for 35+ years, I can attest to this.

Yea but you were not the whole culture man. That is you are playing into the narrative which is flawed by assuming that fundies represent the whole of culture outside the city. This is stupid. This thread is bigot weak man.

Honestly, that sounds like fear of the truth.

Fear of not being able to accept the reality of it.

a reply to: Annee

Honestly, that sounds like fear of the truth.

Fear of not being able to accept the reality of it.

It seems to me that everybody is up for discussion and criticism - except just not certain people

Political correctness will be determined for the many by a vocal few. You can insult whoever you want - except for of course those same some people. Only snowflakes feel insulted - but decent folk shouldn't have to stand for it

The very best people in this country - the realists, the honest, the true - the ones that make this country great... are not coastal elites. Those people are the worst. Just the worst

For one thing - they're all elitists. They're all about identity politics. And they definitely are all hypocrites

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
Growing up in a Fundamental Christian home and being a Fundie for 35+ years, I can attest to this.

Yea but you were not the whole culture man. That is you are playing into the narrative which is flawed by assuming that fundies represent the whole of culture outside the city. This is stupid. This thread is bigot weak man.

Honestly, that sounds like fear of the truth.

Fear of not being able to accept the reality of it.

You guys talk like this when you are getting bested and your points are made to look weak. Your response does not even make any sense to the point and you haven't even made your point.

But I understand in you're mind how important it is and necessary it is to be able to box definitions up into tidy little bigot packages for your use.

a reply to: Annee


Ok I have been to camps like that. They are not real popular anymore. But anyway......they were church camps not town square. I remember trying to get a job in the city with a political action group for some experience. The guy in charge told me flat out he was not going to hire me because of my political affiliation. Did he represent all political action groups in the city? Did he represent the primary political flow of the whole city?

a reply to: Logarock

But I understand in you're mind how important it is and necessary it is to be able to box definitions up into tidy little bigot packages for your use.

What are you even talking about? :

You guys talk like this when you are getting bested

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Logarock

My dad was an evangelist and we travelled all over the USA. And I have been to Christian camps (and yes they were exactly like the movie "Jesus Camp").

So yes it is the whole culture. If there are Fundamental Christians that are different from the rest then they are in the minority.

BTW your avatar is ironic.

Yea LOL it, the avatar is comic relief.

I went to a church in the city that went to the country church camps. Only one bad year with the uptight dress code folks going around checking out how tight girls paints, looking for smokes ect.

But now in my small town outside the city we had 6 or 7 churches.......but also had the Road Saints Biker Club living smack in the middle of town for a good while. We have as the man said "Freaks and Harries, Dikes and Fairies", farmers, drug dealers, ect, ect and no the church folks didn't have control like in some Hollywood B movie. In fact if you wanted to know what all those church folks we thinking you generally had to attend service. Most of that was about Jesus Christ and not hassling sinners.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Logarock

But I understand in you're mind how important it is and necessary it is to be able to box definitions up into tidy little bigot packages for your use.

What are you even talking about? :

You guys talk like this when you are getting bested

There is not a connection established between what she is saying and anything I have said. Really way to smart for that sh8t.

a reply to: Logarock

Really way to smart for that sh8t.

Then you should be able to see the connection

Identity politics and bigotry - name of the game. It's also the theme of this thread for those who aren't afraid - and you're playing this as well as anyone

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Logarock

Really way to smart for that sh8t.

Then you should be able to see the connection

Identity politics and bigotry - name of the game. It's also the theme of this thread for those who aren't afraid - and you're playing this as well as anyone

You must do more work to demonstrate that fundamentalist church, which also are present in the suburbs and city, is the prime factor in determining any sort of anything. All that this thread has done is suggest it in standard left bigot rubrics.......which are a rhetorical propaganda device.

Now the point may be true of the big cities that are infested with the great cathedrals of the left side of the church.....which is why they are stinking up the place with their false prophet hate speech and whore to the government positions. Now I could make a much better case for the cities being run buy libtard churches that the country folks being influenced by the bigot bible belt sorts.

a reply to: Logarock

All that this thread has done is suggest it in standard left bigot rubrics.......

Standard left bigot rubrics

Now the point may be true of the big cities that are infested with the great cathedrals of the left side of the church.....

Infested?

...which is why they are stinking up the place with their false prophet hate speech and whore to the government positions. Now I could make a much better case for the cities being run buy libtard churches that the country folks being influenced by the bigot bible belt sorts.

Not done yet?

Thank you for making my point for me - and thanks for playing

Fundamentalist churches exist in big cities and also in small rural communities. The issue is the level of influence as well as the silencing of debate. Not argument but debate. Small communities are more isolated and introspective. Even where they have the internet they may just look at what reflects their outlook.

I find debate healthy. Have you ever met any fundamentalists who relish INTELLIGENT debate? There are some people on the right (not many) who I like because they are great debaters. OOps sorry I am again show my love of education. My bad.

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Logarock

Really way to smart for that sh8t.

Then you should be able to see the connection

Identity politics and bigotry - name of the game. It's also the theme of this thread for those who aren't afraid - and you're playing this as well as anyone

You must do more work to demonstrate that fundamentalist church, which also are present in the suburbs and city, is the prime factor in determining any sort of anything. All that this thread has done is suggest it in standard left bigot rubrics.......which are a rhetorical propaganda device.

Now the point may be true of the big cities that are infested with the great cathedrals of the left side of the church.....which is why they are stinking up the place with their false prophet hate speech and whore to the government positions. Now I could make a much better case for the cities being run buy libtard churches that the country folks being influenced by the bigot bible belt sorts.

Wow...what a mouthful! I have been fairly pleased that this thread has generated some interesting, and quite possibly helpful dialogue. And I really must thank you for stepping up and exemplifying that which the original article speaks of. It's one thing to read about it in a journalistic piece, but to have one of our ATS neighbours prove the point is the sign of a quality forum. I'm sure that I speak for many in expressing my appreciation...but I also doubt that Aunt Bea would approve.

originally posted by: Logarock


You must do more work to demonstrate that fundamentalist church, which also are present in the suburbs and city, is the prime factor in determining any sort of anything. All that this thread has done is suggest it in standard left bigot rubrics.......which are a rhetorical propaganda device.

Now the point may be true of the big cities that are infested with the great cathedrals of the left side of the church.....which is why they are stinking up the place with their false prophet hate speech and whore to the government positions. Now I could make a much better case for the cities being run buy libtard churches that the country folks being influenced by the bigot bible belt sorts.

Oh....oh, wow, oh my goodness hunnnny!, why are you so upset?

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

This is what annoys me most about people in these small towns (and fundamentalists everywhere really), when you point out to them how they're acting, they flip it around and call you the bigot for pointing it out. At which point they proceed to shut down any possible discussion.

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

This is what annoys me most about people in these small towns (and fundamentalists everywhere really), when you point out to them how they're acting, they flip it around and call you the bigot for pointing it out. At which point they proceed to shut down any possible discussion.

True! I find it very childish almost the arguments of a seven year old! The same people that are defending rural fundamentalism here are denouncing fundamentalist Islam. So what is wrong then? is it Islam because it is in- American Fundamentalism or just fundamentalism? I find it difficult to determine.

originally posted by: Tiger5
The issue is the level of influence as well as the silencing of debate. Not argument but debate. Small communities are more isolated and introspective. Even where they have the internet they may just look at what reflects their outlook.

Of course there are individuals/churches every where that teach Fundamental beliefs.

But, we're talking about a culture based in Fundamental beliefs.

A culture that is wide spread in the midwest and bible belt.