Oceanus Procellarum (Ocean of Storms) Alien Base or Elite Holiday Camp?

a reply to: JimOberg

Who?

a reply to: JimOberg

Who?

I confess I am a fan of Richard Hoagland John Lear and Bob Lazar and a few others.

originally posted by: lunarrover
a reply to: TerminalVelocity

Something is dodgy with it all imo.

There are too many images showing strange things to call them artifacts of image software.

You can screen grab and use your monitors controls for brightness and contrast and get the same result?

Why is that? All those strange hexagonal structures etc in old apollo images.

To write it off is criminal.

The problem is: You are insisting that we must only look at your images, that only your images are correct, and try to down play any other images.

Like the images from the LROC......from Arizona State University, which have a much, much higher resolution rate, due to the fact it's from a spacecraft in orbit about the Moon with a telescopic camera (better than anything we can do here on Earth).

So you produce an old Apollo image, many of which are fantastic and of very high resolution......only to destroy it with your photo manipulation.

You aren't "bringing things out", you are manipulating the pixels within the scanned image.

The really sad part is that there are many very interesting things to look at and speculate on from the images without any manipulation required.

Like this one, from the LROC, from the very area you are having us look at:



Looks like a boulder rolled.

What made it roll? Why only that one? Is it really a boulder?

But, you would have us completely ignore images like this because: NASA!!!!

Which is really funny because the images are produced by ASU.....not NASA.

Also, extra bonus: Did not have to manipulate the image quality to see this. Just a crop of the image.

Jesus, you started ANOTHER thread on this same topic? Showing the exact same poor images.

TerminalVelocity posted images 10x better than what you did, clearly showing there is nothing there.

Yet you want to believe and let your emotions get the better of your intellect.

If what you say was true, TV's images would have shown your anomalies in very clear definition. And they do not.

Oh - and you still have yet to show any genuine evidence of NASA's control over Japan's space program.

originally posted by: noonebutme
Jesus, you started ANOTHER thread on this same topic? Showing the exact same poor images.

TerminalVelocity posted images 10x better than what you did, clearly showing there is nothing there.

Yet you want to believe and let your emotions get the better of your intellect.

If what you say was true, TV's images would have shown your anomalies in very clear definition. And they do not.

Oh - and you still have yet to show any genuine evidence of NASA's control over Japan's space program.

I know what is going on mate, dont worry I'll probably be gone soon, the great thing is my crummy images and ideas are here now and atleast a couple of people can see the truth, shut me down, kick me out the door tell yourselves it all crap hope I go away, which I will.

Pretend to Deny Ignorance.

a reply to: TerminalVelocity

All you are doing is making me realise exaxactly what you are about.

Keep looking at your grey dead piles of dust and rock.

How do you explain the glass and mushroom buildings?

You cant

AS08-12-2189
Give me a little bit more time, I can do this.
footage.framepool.com...'s-surface-apollo-11-mission-to-the-moon

a reply to: lunarrover

You know, I do agree with you actually. However, my outlook on this is negative to begin with as these photos (particularly the Apollo ones) all come through NASA, which has an agenda. It is scoured over, and "corrected" to show the narrative that NASA wants to tell.

For Christ's sake, Obama actually made it so that not only are the Apollo landing sites no-go, but they're also no-fly zones as well.

In other words, for whatever reason, they don't want photos taken of the landing sites.

Why?

But, frankly, I feel that the OP's photos are grasping at straws.

a reply to: FHomerK

Thanks

Even if you are in a minority of 1 the truth is still the truth.

originally posted by: lunarrover
I know what is going on mate, dont worry I'll probably be gone soon, the great thing is my crummy images and ideas are here now and atleast a couple of people can see the truth, shut me down, kick me out the door tell yourselves it all crap hope I go away, which I will.

Wow. Shall we Cry for you, Argentina..?

All I am saying is your evidence is less than adequate. You have, in my opinion, demonstrated nothing in your low resolution images. Only your belief that something is there when so far, others have not seen what you see.

TV posted images which are very clear and you reject them because your biased.

Pretend to Deny Ignorance.

Oh, no I don't need to pretend. I am denying your ignorance.

a reply to: lunarrover

You just proved my point: You're not here to discuss. You're here to blog and take pot shots at those who do not see what you want, or THINK you see.

The image I just posted should have made you wonder, should have made you go hmmmm? Should have made anyone who is serious about questioning things.

Instead, you blew it off, and promoted your images.

ATS is full of highly intelligent people. Blowing them off and insulting them because they do not see your magic castles and sky towers is the worst thing you can do here. ATS isn't a echo chamber.

a reply to: TerminalVelocity

I know all that,

I'm serious but might have come to the wrong place.

The fact i'm undebunkable means I cant operate in this medium which is fine, I wont loose any sleep over it. Call it a sort of holliday romance. I have no real vested interest so it wont hurt us in the long run.

I know honest to god I am on to something, the lack of true HD images of the moon, all of the evidence means the moon is not just a rock floating through space. I know it sounds insane thats because the truth is insane.

The fact ufo from apollo 7 to 17 can be seen in all those 16mm films, the photos, the hoax theories all of it = mind funk

I tried hard to find stuff about our nearest neighbor and all ive found is stuff that will not add up or sit right?

Its a kin inigma.

Not this guff about "no fly zones" to prevent photos being taken of the moon landing sites, again?

Do you not know that the proposed buffer for future moon walkers is only about 75 metres for example for the Apollo 11 moon lander? You'd get some nice snaps at that distance. Surely, a sensible thing to preserve such a historic site?

Think Stonehenge, for example.

People who come up with this tosh are either incredibly gullible and credulous or just can't be bothered to look things up. Or both, or worse, as in they are just spreading lies.

a reply to: lunarrover

Truth that you are only able to offer up pictures of that are so grainy we could be looking at Clinton flying out of Trump's ass for all we know.

You see, this is something you believe, but it is not "truth".

a reply to: noonebutme

No dont cry, cellebrate with a few beers

originally posted by: FHomerK
a reply to: lunarrover

Truth that you are only able to offer up pictures of that are so grainy we could be looking at Clinton flying out of Trump's ass for all we know.

You see, this is something you believe, but it is not "truth".

It has no real bearing, its just words.

I tried posting video evidence but got shutdown by your armed guard.

a reply to: lunarrover

Do you not see the arrogance of your words here?

The fact i'm undebunkable

First off: no one has to debunk you. YOU have to prove what you are claiming. That is how it works here. YOU are the one that has to provide the actual evidence of any extraordinary claim. Especially here in this Forum, unlike Skunk Works which a OP doesn't have to provide evidence.

The evidence you have provided is of this flavor:

"Here's an image....look at all the grey that is here, that proves my point."

From a person that is color blind and what they think is grey, is actually red in color to the rest of us.

(the above is just a example).

You post images and insist that there is something there. Okay, so we wait and see if anyone else is seeing it.

Nope. No one. Nada. Zilch. Even the ones who tend to think every Mars rock is a boat anchor or a lizard.....even they are not seeing what you think you see.

That should speak volumes to you: That what you think you see, isn't really there. You think you see it there, because you have talked yourself into it, instead of being objective and clinical about it.

Okay, so you think something is in a image you posted. But no one else is seeing it. Going after those that don't see it, insulting them, getting mean with them is certainly NOT going to win anyone over to your side.

Try finding another image that shows what you think you see even better, then post that.

Find images that show what you think you are seeing that you have not tainted with your paint program

Undebunkable?

Hardly. Just about everyone of your images have been debunked: by you. Because you have changed the images yourself by manipulating them.

Show us something untouched by your paint program. Show us what you are seeing without changing the image.

If you can get others to see it too, then you've got a leg to stand on.

originally posted by: noonebutme


Only your belief that something is there when so far, others have not seen what you see.

Not true, some have been dumbstruck, one person opined that my images were the best he had seen in well over 10 years.

I have PMs of support, to reach anyone is fantastic considering how contovercial the subject matter is.

I refuse to be browbeaten on it. I've played my hand and will leave it at that, I dont really see any point inflaming anything

Lets just take it for what it was and agree to disagree and be adult about it.

originally posted by: TerminalVelocity
a reply to: lunarrover

Undebunkable?

Hardly. Just about everyone of your images have been debunked: by you. Because you have changed the images yourself by manipulating them.

Show us something untouched by your paint program. Show us what you are seeing without changing the image.

If you can get others to see it too, then you've got a leg to stand on.

I can afford to be arrogant.

I have already done that. In the jaxa vid, play that and look at the screen shot earlier and hold them up you can see the same stuff its just been fogged. Also check out as08-12-2189 you can see the glass mushroom. Get the image from jpl if you want. Get the image of mare marginis from cheng 5 ti its all there. Goto framepool apollo archive download the videos that show humboldt crater and the full pans that show the sweep from left to right. Its all there. Look at my green moon images you can still see there are anomolies in the magazine AS10-27N the evidence is endless however I shall say it again,

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

No point me banging on I dont want to annoy the mods, I've probably done enough of that.

Any spelling mistakes can be blamed on being dragged up on a sink estate in SELondon during the 1970's

a reply to: lunarrover

ignore