Ethnic Cleansing of Christians in Middle East

So one group of conservatives is killing off another group, there's nothing new about that.

The obvious conclusion here is that conservatism kills.

And what do you think ISIS would do if there was a community of atheists living there, or gay people??

They attack anyone who isn't on their "team". The same thing might happen in this country, Tea Party versus everyone else.

Oh, and ISIS has killed more muslims than anyone else so don't think it's a world-wide plot to get rid of christians.

a reply to: visitedbythem

My grandfather's family escaped because of a Russian Christian kids prophesy.

So, your ancestors were refugees?

How ironic.

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
So whats the body count, only iraq there more than 1 million death since the 2nd iraq war, how many christian where killed, i bet ya all i own that its not even close, more poor us white christians. Am i right.

The white guilt is strong with this one.

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
So whats the body count, only iraq there more than 1 million death since the 2nd iraq war, how many christian where killed, i bet ya all i own that its not even close, more poor us white christians. Am i right.

The white guilt is strong with this one.

not to mention that the number of a million dead iraqis was fabricated. it was more like 400,000 dead due to mostly Islamic terrorist. A casualty isnt always a death either. It can also mean wounded.

a reply to: Revolution9

It's okay to kill and hate on Christians.

Duh.

a reply to: Revolution9





www.abovetopsecret.com...

The U.S. State Department is currently not allowing Christians persecuted by ISIS into the country. There is a huge effort in the works to privately fund airlifts of Christians from Iraq and Syria. Just a few years ago, there were 2 million Christians in Syria. It’s now down to 400,000.

The world is silent. There’s a genocide already underway. But it’s of Christians.

It has gotten to the point where there is serious consideration to have Christian refugees airlifted to Mexico and walking them over the border. The State Department is resisting any attempt to privately bring Christian families here to the U.S. though they seem to have little issue with others claiming refugee status or coming into the country illegally.

The Mark of the Nazarene, like the yellow stars the Nazi's used to identify Jews has been implemented to "mark the Christians" for persecution, death, and torment. The time to act is now. Never Again is happening Again.


Donors in the private sector have offered complete funding for the airfare and the resettlement in the United States of these Iraqi Christians. But the State Department – while admitting 4,425 Somalis to the United States in just the first six months of FY2015, and possibly even accepting members of ISIS through the Syrian and Iraqi refugee program, all paid for by tax dollars, told Dobbs that they “would not support a special category to bring Assyrian Christians into the United States.”

The United States government has made it clear that there is no way that Christians will be supported because of their religious affiliation, even though it is exactly that – their religious affiliation – that makes them candidates for asylum based on a credible fear of persecution from ISIS.

The president’s response appears to be United States policy. Evidence suggests that within the administration not only is there no passion for persecuted Christians under threat of genocide from the Islamic State, there is no room for them, period.

In fact, despite ISIS’ targeting of Iraqi Christians specifically because they are Christians, and, as such, stand in the way of a pure, Islamic Caliphate in the Middle East (and beyond), the U.S. State Department has made it clear that “there is no way that Christians will be supported because of their religious affiliation.”

The legal definition of “genocide” according to Article II of the United Nations’ 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide legally defines the term as any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethical, racial or religious group, as such:
(1) killing members of the group
(2) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
(3) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
(4) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
(5) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

THIS OBVIOUSLY SEEMS LIKE A GENOCIDE; SO WHY HAS THE U.S. AND UNITED NATIONS NOT RECOGNIZED IT AS SUCH?

If genocide were formally declared, then it would trigger certain international mechanisms that are meant to protect the group under threat. Some human rights activists believe the United States fails to declare the ISIS threat against Christians and Yazidis as “genocide” because it would force the United States government to be more involved in providing direct assistance to them.

Presently, the United States government’s response has been dismal, and especially so with regard to the ancient Christian communities of the Middle East. Here, you can read additional information on what would automatically happen if the United Nations were to declare this a genocide, as well as specific evidence of genocidal acts by ISIS against Christians and Yazidis.

originally posted by: CB328
So one group of conservatives is killing off another group, there's nothing new about that.

The obvious conclusion here is that conservatism kills.

And what do you think ISIS would do if there was a community of atheists living there, or gay people??

They attack anyone who isn't on their "team". The same thing might happen in this country, Tea Party versus everyone else.

Oh, and ISIS has killed more muslims than anyone else so don't think it's a world-wide plot to get rid of christians.

isn't it funny ? they all know that this F anti Islamic state is doing exactly what the lots of people want to hear listen and watch, more news about this anti Islamic state, looks to me that they are fueled by this kind of news which they prefer to be spread, the fact that they are killing Muslims more than any other people is quite telling but the blind shall always be blind

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
So whats the body count, only iraq there more than 1 million death since the 2nd iraq war, how many christian where killed, i bet ya all i own that its not even close, more poor us white christians. Am i right.

The white guilt is strong with this one.

Lol white guilt, did you get your dylan roof signed poster yet.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
So whats the body count, only iraq there more than 1 million death since the 2nd iraq war, how many christian where killed, i bet ya all i own that its not even close, more poor us white christians. Am i right.

The white guilt is strong with this one.

not to mention that the number of a million dead iraqis was fabricated. it was more like 400,000 dead due to mostly Islamic terrorist. A casualty isnt always a death either. It can also mean wounded.

Man you guys like up stuff just to sell tour victimhood, its so tough to be a Christian lol

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Just curious, but are you including the 1 million or so Iraqi Christians who were forced into exile during our 2003 Iraq invasion and occupation?

Many fled the rampant rise in Sunni extremist violence directed at them, which is really the topic of the OP.

Regardless, it's been downhill for any minority group in all countries in the Middle East and North Africa for many decades. This includes sectarian violence and brutality between the different denominations of Islam, notably (but not exclusively) Sunni against Shia against Sunni ad infinitum.

The hate in the name of a Deity. A loving God.
I believe in God, but this is by far, the stupidest thing humans do, and have ever done.
"My God is better than yours, so you have to die."
Just where the hell are we?

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
Look at all the scum who only care because of which religion these people follow.

Yes, and we are all one species too (not scum, which usually refers to pond life).

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
So whats the body count, only iraq there more than 1 million death since the 2nd iraq war, how many christian where killed, i bet ya all i own that its not even close, more poor us white christians. Am i right.

The white guilt is strong with this one.

not to mention that the number of a million dead iraqis was fabricated. it was more like 400,000 dead due to mostly Islamic terrorist. A casualty isnt always a death either. It can also mean wounded.

Man you guys like up stuff just to sell tour victimhood, its so tough to be a Christian lol

Excuse me Last i checked most Iraqis were not christians were they? thats how many were killed and or wounder REGARDLESS of their relgion.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Just curious, but are you including the 1 million or so Iraqi Christians who were forced into exile during our 2003 Iraq invasion and occupation? Or the Lebanese Christians who fled into exile during Israel's 2006 war against Lebanon? Or do those not count?

Official sources estimate the Christian refugees from the Iraq war to be 1/2 a million. This left 1.5 million Christians still in Iraq.

Israel's "war against Lebanon" was a defensive movement after IDF border patrols were attacked by Hezbollah rockets fired across the border, killing 3 Israeli soldiers. The Hezbollah forces then crossed the border into Israel and abducted two IDF soldiers, into Lebanon. The IDF attempted a rescue and this was opposed by Hezbollah forces, causing a 34 day firefight. It is this you are calling "Israel's war against Lebanon". Israel was not at war with Lebanon but was opposing Hezbollah paramillitary forces. Hezbollah is a separate paramillitary group to the Lebanese government and does not represent the mandate of the Lebanese people. Check it out on Wikipedia.

Nonetheless, people have been displaced from their rightful and legal homes due to millitary actions, worldwide. Regardless of what the conflict is about, it is wrong. It is important that we seek peace and justice. Reparations to the affected innocents must be paid. To be fair, those who instigated the conflict should pay the major share but those who contributed and maintained the conflict should also bear the burden of some (but lesser) responsibility and therefore reparations.

If parties were absolutely ALWAYS held accountable for their actions after the fact, especcially where human rights are blatantly abused, then I feel sure that there would be greater constraint against abusing.

In the case of the 2006 conflict, a fair balance would be that Hezbollah (who started the conflict) and its allies should pay 2/3rds of the reparation costs and Israel and its allies sholud pay 1/3rd.

In the 2006 conflict, the total number of displaced people is estimated to be 1.5 million and the dead @ 1,500. If we assume a repatriation cost of @ $5,000 per person and a blood debt of $10,000 for each killed, that means a total pool of $7.65 trillion dollars. Hezbollah pays $5.1 trillion and Israel $2.55 trillion.

Where the abused cannot be repatriated directly, repatriation costs beyond what can be paid to individuals should be put into local infrastructure such as hospitals, schools and public transport.

If any country engages in millitary conflict, they can fight themselves to their hearts content, into slavery. They may win a state but it won't be worth dirt.

a reply to: Revolution9

The title should be "Sectarian cleansing of Christians in the Middle East".

Christian isn't an ethnicity.

Christians ought to be ashamed of themselves...

..just like white people.

Probably. Actually, I'm not sure what to think, I'm scared that my honesty will result in me being labelled, we should ask Madonna what to think about this just to be safe.

a reply to: charlyv

Has been this way for centuries. I don't understand it. Neither does anyone of any rationality whatsoever. However, a fanatic, whether they be religious, political, ideological, et cetera, doesn't have rationality.

a reply to: SpeakerofTruth
If you automatically assume a stated fact is meant to minimize death, you have some problems man.

They're not Christian, fact. They follow a separate religion. You clearly didn't read your own link.