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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: uncommitted
Only a fools trusts an organization. The people within the organization may (or may not) be trust worthy. But the organization itself cannot be.
I don't trust any news outlet. I read stories, then read transcripts. I don't need to read editorialized comments when I can read the transcript and make my own conclusion.
There isn't anything else to reporting anymore. Its all political gossip anymore.
Oh patdon me it is currently TRENDY to bash the potus. Carry on.
originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: shooterbrody
Oh patdon me it is currently TRENDY to bash the potus. Carry on.
No, it's ALWAYS been TRENDY. Remember the muslim, antichrist, monkey faced, Chairman Mau Mau, that just left the office of POTUS? Carry on indeed....
originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ThingsThatDontMakeSense
The press is stating that some criticisms have "crossed the line".
They are determining what anyone can say about them.
Not really, attacking freedom of the press is an attack against American principles. You are American right?
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ThingsThatDontMakeSense
The press is stating that some criticisms have "crossed the line".
They are determining what anyone can say about them.
Not really, attacking freedom of the press is an attack against American principles. You are American right?
show us anything close to a law, and EO, an official plea, from the US government (See also TRUMP) that says anything at all about closing down, or limiting the press in any way.
There is a difference between talking about something and attacking free press. Does Freedom of speech still exist?
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It's a tweet. Life must be pretty good in the Twitter bubble if a tweet is cause for outrage and indignation.
Trump trolled Wallace and other parrots, and you deserve it.
Having a president that embraces the twitterbitch modality is more than just a little embarrassing. imo
originally posted by: uncommitted
So you do acknowledge then that the BBC isn't state run?
Every news organisation will editorialise, you self editorialise when you make your conclusions. The only real difference is you base your conclusion on your opinion alone. That's fine, but it doesn't make it right, it's just what you want to think is right.
I, and from the sound of it others, would like to take in a broad array of views, particularly from those with more experience and knowledge when forming my opinion - but that's just to prevent me falling pray to confirmation bias.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: alphabetaone
A tweet or criticism cannot be an attack on free press, especially in a world where a cartoon can lead to gunmen storming the offices and slaughtering the staff of a magazine. Firebombs thrown into a newspaper office is an attack on the free press. A government that does not allow its people to start their own periodicals is an attack on free press. A tweet isn't an attack on the free press.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: uncommitted
Side note: i editorialize here because a) im not a journalist, b) this is not a news publication.
Other side note: i battle confirmation bias by reading things that remove the members of the media from my viewpoints. If Trump says something, I read what he says and make my own conclusions on it. In so doing I find out that the media is obtuse and purosefully misconstrues what is said in order to actually feed peoples confirmation bias.
If you want a breadth of viewpoints, talk to real people. Not the self proclaimed "pro's" who spend their time greasing palms in order to get paid.
If you want a breadth of viewpoints, talk to real people. Not the self proclaimed "pro's" who spend their time greasing palms in order to get paid.
And coming soon to a theater near you!!!> The Day The Citizens of The USA Realized They Can't Believe ANYTHING AT ALL <
originally posted by: marg6043
I remember when the media used to shape the president and it was a mutual respect about that, because people respected the media also.
Now the president is shaping the media and is not respect from any side at all. People no longer believe everything the media is tells.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: uncommitted
Nope. Because a quick Google search shows that the board of directors is put in place by the government, and there are large amounts of government funding rolling in.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: uncommitted
Side note: i editorialize here because a) im not a journalist, b) this is not a news publication.
Other side note: i battle confirmation bias by reading things that remove the members of the media from my viewpoints. If Trump says something, I read what he says and make my own conclusions on it. In so doing I find out that the media is obtuse and purosefully misconstrues what is said in order to actually feed peoples confirmation bias.
If you want a breadth of viewpoints, talk to real people. Not the self proclaimed "pro's" who spend their time greasing palms in order to get paid.
originally posted by: alphabetaone
originally posted by: uncommitted
So you do acknowledge then that the BBC isn't state run?
Well it is and it isn't. On paper, they call themselves a private company. But during WWII, the BBC was a strong propaganda arm and often required to insert items as news by the UK Government. It's likely a lot of those ties haven't quite dissolved.
Every news organisation will editorialise, you self editorialise when you make your conclusions. The only real difference is you base your conclusion on your opinion alone. That's fine, but it doesn't make it right, it's just what you want to think is right.
I, and from the sound of it others, would like to take in a broad array of views, particularly from those with more experience and knowledge when forming my opinion - but that's just to prevent me falling pray to confirmation bias.
With this, I agree completely.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: ThingsThatDontMakeSense
Star and Flag.
I am only partially through your OP, but wanted to applaud you right away.
Chris Wallace is the son of Mike Wallace. I believe in him.
Alex Jones is a puffer-fish-humanoid who has no cred at all.
Jim Jefferies is a genius who tells us what is real: