Was Pence the only one who did not know???

Obviously this is referring to the Flynn scandal, where he was caught illegally talking to Russian ambassadors before he was an actual gov official..


Well first off, man has the Russian connection gone DEEP!!!!

I'm not specifically anti Trump at all, but imho it's pretty obvious trump and Russian intelligence were in league to get him elected. That said I think 99% of the anti Russian, Reagan rhetoric was propaganda. So I'm not sure Russia should be deamonized like the US gov does anyway....



That said....,What is the chance that Flynn would make a move like that without his boss's approval??? Slim to none..

So assuming pence isn't lying, maybe pence was too traditionally conservative to include in the plan??

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I believe Spicer said he was misled as well during the press conference today, as well as someone else (forgetting the name).

A masterpiece conspiracy.

The other glove that doesn't fit is maybe the Russians recorded the call(s) and leaked them.

Flynn was talking to the the Russian Ambassador afterall.

The Trump team is so knee-deep in vodka I don't know what to think anymore. Quite frankly I don't give a *. Hey as long as Trump don't screw up my job and actually helps out my southern cousins in the ole US of A I don't care who talks to who or what gets stuck to the wall.

Keep your heads down and hope the storm blows over my friends.

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There are plenty of people in the WH that didn't know. There are others that knew everything.


This is blowing up bigly, believe me!

www.nytimes.com...

Everyone of importance knew. Flynn fell on the sword. I applaud Flynn and the administration for what they were trying to do, but clearly the globalists aren't going away quietly.

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Are we not missing something here. Flynn under the First amendment can speak to anyone he wants to. If he was divulging state secrets it would be another matter, but it is not. This world has lost its focus, it doesn't matter anymore, because the immoral people have taken over the banks and the media, all shred of government morality left years ago. We are all aware of what happens, when this happens, so brace yourselves and prepare.

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Have any of you been actually listening to the story?
It wasn't that he had been speaking to the Russian ambassador but the fact he was speaking to the Russian ambassador about sanctions being lifted.
Well that is what I gathered but don't take my word for it because I wasn't paying much attention.

originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
Everyone of importance knew. Flynn fell on the sword. I applaud Flynn and the administration for what they were trying to do, but clearly the globalists aren't going away quietly.

They are obviously on a strategy of destroying or removing all moderate elements surrounding Trump the problem is Trump seems to be going along with it. I recall a movie with an inscrutible evil bastard Machievelian Chinese Eunuch advisor to the Emperor,I think we have one of these white anting right now in the White house.

originally posted by: xuenchen
A masterpiece conspiracy.

The other glove that doesn't fit is maybe the Russians recorded the call(s) and leaked them.

Flynn was talking to the the Russian Ambassador afterall.

And Russia moved missles breaking some treaty... put trump in power then push him...

originally posted by: anonentity
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Are we not missing something here. Flynn under the First amendment can speak to anyone he wants to. If he was divulging state secrets it would be another matter, but it is not. This world has lost its focus, it doesn't matter anymore, because the immoral people have taken over the banks and the media, all shred of government morality left years ago. We are all aware of what happens, when this happens, so brace yourselves and prepare.

I'm pretty sure you can't tell foroen powers to ignore sanctions before you even take office... obviously...

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This story is not as big as it looks. Here it is simplified.

1. Flynn was in correspondence with Russian diplomat. They communicated Trump's thoughts about the sanctions.
2. Flynn didn't tell Pence the details because he would have incriminated himself with the Logan Act. Whereas a citizen cannot speak to foreign governments that are enemies of state about policy.
3. Had Flynn had these talks 3 weeks later there would be no issue because the Trump Administration would have started. The problem was that Obama was still President.
4. So this entire thing is all about having talks with Russia before Trump was sworn in. And Flynn didn't tell Pence of the talk because he didn't want to incriminate himself.

Now, everyone is focusing on the Trump administrations ties to Russia. To those that understand what is really going on, that shouldn't surprise you. Trump is a lot like Putin. They are both Nationalist who are against Globalism. So it's not a surprise that Trump's policies mirror Putins.

However, I'll leave you with this. Remember when Obama was caught on a hot mic during his campaign for second term where he told Russian outgoing President to tell Putin Obama will have more flexibility after the election? Can you imagine if Trump had been caught saying this? The liberal media would throw a fit.



This world is not what it seems.

AAC

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Germany is ignoring sanctions with Russia by getting around them. They set up factories in Russia. Sanctions are a non issue, NKPR has sanctions, which leak like a sieve via China. Russia is still keeping Europe warm with gas. Paper tigers versus reality, and Flynn a good man resigns. Who suffers.?

originally posted by: xuenchen
A masterpiece conspiracy.

The other glove that doesn't fit is maybe the Russians recorded the call(s) and leaked them.

Flynn was talking to the the Russian Ambassador afterall.

So they got him out?

Why? Too tough?

Trump would just put someone else in to do it.

First they put Trump in and ruin the DNC, hack the elections and now they can get people to resign?

What's wrong with this picture?

I wonder what other countries the russians control.

Is the USA the last on the list? lol.

originally posted by: anonentity
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Germany is ignoring sanctions with Russia by getting around them. They set up factories in Russia. Sanctions are a non issue, NKPR has sanctions, which leak like a sieve via China. Russia is still keeping Europe warm with gas. Paper tigers versus reality, and Flynn a good man resigns. Who suffers.?

Flynn is a hack who pushed pizzagate, and falsely accusing people of rape and child molestation by definition means your a garbage human being..

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What missiles ?

originally posted by: xuenchen
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What missiles ?

mobile.nytimes.com...

I think they're trying to isolate Mike Pence in case the administration falls over this. Mike Pence can be the greatest denier of all time, saying he knew nothing about this as the administration collapses around him.

Personally, I think this might be a long game of Evangelical Christians. Their support of Trump was always questionable - why did they recommend supporting someone who is so obviously not a practioner or representative of Christian values?

I suspect that they have decided they can get their guy in as VP, then an early scandal would knock Trump out of office and their guy would swoop in and replace him, and nominate another far right Christian as his VP. I can see Mike Pence nominating maybe Mike Huckabee or Rick Santorum as VP? Neither would be palatable to voters, but could be nominated as VP rather than elected.

If you thought Trump was extreme, wait until you see the agenda Mike Pence would put in place.

No. Next.

Pence's so called e-mail scandal looks more like a Hollywood movie rather than a real scandal. But hey ... the EU knows better than I do. They are good at organizing this kind of scandals.