'Death to America'

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

That is religous nonsense from 2,000 years ago and the majority of Jews aren't even Semitic never mind Israelites they are Yaphetites.

So that claim, silly as it is to claim God gave you the "Title deeds" therefore invasion and annexation is Kosher, that because 2,000 years ago the Jews pissed off the Romans at the apex of their power and were crushed into diaspora.

There are Jews who don't believe they have a right to Palestine until the Maschiach comes and others who see it as a brutal Theocracy that is both xenophobic and sociopathic

They are not wrong.

Palestine didn't do a damn thing to the Jews before, during or after WW2 and before that was mutual peace and population coexistence.

The invasion was without provocation to a people who accepted them as refugees from Europe and gave them sanctuary.

Way to repay the favor.

Your sociopathic rationalization makes me think Stalin, Hitler.

originally posted by: Kukri

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: Snarl

...and O paid this country billions of our dollars, and aided them in getting uranium from Russia.....

Guess we know what that makes him!

Really!

And your sources for these bits of wisdom are?

Oh right their aren't any because it's bullsnip.

Keep dreaming.

Obama Admin Stonewalled Lawmakers On Billions in Cash and Gold to Iran

U.S. to pay Iran $1.7 billion in legal settlement

Obama administration engaged in secret talks to pay Iran nearly $2 billion

Obama's Final Gift: Uranium Headed To Iran

Obama "Gifts" Iran With Massive Uranium Shipment From Russia Sufficient "For More Than 10 Nuclear Bombs"

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

If it fits your agenda they are all legitimate news, if not … they are all fake, right..? Mate…. You make it sounds the payment to Iran was like a gift (free tax payer money to Israel).

The money transferred to Iran (if it is true) was their own money …. (Frozen assets) blocked for decades by the Zionist thieves of the US governments, why is so hard to understand it? the fact is (if they have done this) the transferred money (was without INTREST).

Adding 15+years of illegal frozen money “in that amount” it would have been like $20 billion by now, not a lousy $2 billion, you American making noise like chickens.

a reply to: irenialilivenka

Yaphetites

ha don't make me laugh, where did you get that from. all and by that imean all jewish sources state that the patriarch of of the hebrew people was abrham, hell even the arabs say this, and claim him as their father. and their is no doubt about them being semtic.
your post shows just how much you know. the dribble that you spew reminds me of the self hating secular jewish liberals after WW II, and other anti semitic people along with arabs that have jumped on the hate Israel train. it also reminiscent of Shlomo Sand who pushes the fictional theory of Arthur Koestler’s 'the thirteenth tribe", utter bs.

so tell me how it's religious nonsense when it can be found in roman records that they renamed the land , and that many Judian/ Israelites/Hebrew people never left and maintained a existence in the land until this day.

here at ATS if your gonna argue here you need facts. to start i like using wiki for the more ignorant members cause it's fast and it has all kinds of references that you can use to look stuff up with.
but i think deep down you know this, it just your just Anti-Semitic. or one of them self hating secular jewish liberals.

here is a wiki for the roman fact.

After the defeat of Bar Kokhba (132–135 CE) the Roman Emperor Hadrian was determined to wipe out the identity of Israel-Judah-Judea, and renamed it Syria Palaestina. Until that time the area had been called "province of Judea" (Roman Judea) by the Romans.[22] At the same time, he changed the name of the city of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina. The Romans killed many Jews and sold many more into slavery; many Jews departed into the Jewish diaspora, but there was never a complete Jewish abandonment of the area, and Jews have been an important (and sometimes persecuted) minority in Judea since that time.[23]
Judea

did you notice the the the red large text, two points to make here.
first is that Jews remained in the land and that they have been persecuted from time to time. with this something comes to mind. it is thought that during the first crusade jews were the foremost defenders of Haifa, and that there were at least fifty well established populations in the holy land, and that was at least a 1000 years after the diaspora.

second, you see where it says "sold them into slavery", you do realize that in 132AD rome's empire was well into europe. where do who you think they bought and sold the new jewish slaves? doesn't it make sense that they sold them all over their empire, they probably even traded with people outside of their empire. and doesn't it make sense that the slaves kept on have offspring, that intermarried with other slaves, or the slave owners knocked up a bunch of the new jewish slave women, or even that the slave owners wives got knocked up by jewish slaves. it's not all that inconceivable that many jewish people were born in europe. and that's just peoples that were enslaved, that's not counting the ones who gigh ttailed it out in groups and kept their culture and traditions.
third,now for the DNA.
if you remember, at the beginning of this post i said that arabs see abraham as their father as well.
here from 2000,
those pesky Ashkenazi Jews, you know the one that evrybody says aren't real jews.

"Jews and Arabs are all really children of Abraham," says Harry Ostrer, M.D., Director of the Human Genetics Program at New York University School of Medicine, an author of the new study by an international team of researchers in the United States, Europe, and Israel. "And all have preserved their Middle Eastern genetic roots over 4,000 years," he says.

The researchers analyzed the Y chromosome, which is usually passed unchanged from father to son, of more than 1,000 men worldwide. Throughout human history, alterations have occurred in the sequence of chemical bases that make up the DNA in this so-called male chromosome, leaving variations that can be pinpointed with modern genetic techniques. Related populations carry the same specific variations. In this way, scientists can track descendants of large populations and determine their common ancestors.
Specific regions of the Y chromosome were analyzed in 1,371 men from 29 worldwide populations, including Jews and non-Jews from the Middle East, North Africa, sub-Saharan Africa, and Europe.
Jews Are The Genetic Brothers Of Palestinians, Syrians, And Lebanese

Ashkenazi Jews (AJ), identified as Jewish individuals of Central- and Eastern European ancestry, form the largest genetic isolate in the United States. AJ demonstrate distinctive genetic characteristics1,2, including high prevalence of autosomal recessive diseases and relatively high frequency of alleles that confer a strong risk of common diseases, such as Parkinson’s disease3 and breast and ovarian cancer4. Several recent studies have employed common polymorphisms5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13 to characterize AJ as a genetically distinct population, close to other Jewish populations as well as to present-day Middle Eastern and European populations. Previous analyses of recent AJ history highlighted a narrow population bottleneck of only hundreds of individuals in late medieval times, followed by rapid expansion12,14.
Sequencing an Ashkenazi reference panel supports population-targeted personal genomics and illuminates Jewish and European origins

from the same people a little easier to read.

Hypotheses on Ashkenazi origins Our results raise a number of questions and hypotheses. Who were he Ashkenazi founders? Who were the European populations that mixed with them and when did it happen? Was it a single event or a millennium-spanning process? A naïve reading of the results would suggest that the founders were early Ashkenazi settlers in Eastern-Europe, but the resolution of our analysis may not be sufficient, at present, for a confident interpretation. The equal amounts of European and Middle-Eastern ancestry suggests, interestingly, a sex-biased process, where, say, Middle-Eastern Jewish men married European non-Jewish women. We are currently investigating these and other questions using the DNA sequence data that our project generated.
The Ashkenazi Genome Consortium

wow who would have thunk it. oh that's right it's only been said for the last 2000 years.
now if you really want to see who the problem is go back to 1947/48 i think it was it might have been later, have to check i'm getting a little tired tonight.

anyway back then Israel agreed split of the land, but no that wasn't good enough for their blood thirst brothers the arabs that no other arab country wanted and went to war to keep them from moving in with them.
it's all a blood fued, started by jacobs half brother Ishmael holding a grudge against their brothers.

Your sociopathic rationalization makes me think Stalin, Hitler.

i find this absurd comment to be most ridiculous thing in your whole post, you do realize that both hilter and stalin were anti semtic, and that your little rants sounds more them than me. just sayin.

originally posted by: Syphone
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

If it fits your agenda they are all legitimate news, if not … they are all fake, right..? Mate…. You make it sounds the payment to Iran was like a gift (free tax payer money to Israel).

The money transferred to Iran (if it is true) was their own money …. (Frozen assets) blocked for decades by the Zionist thieves of the US governments, why is so hard to understand it? the fact is (if they have done this) the transferred money (was without INTREST).

Adding 15+years of illegal frozen money “in that amount” it would have been like $20 billion by now, not a lousy $2 billion, you American making noise like chickens.

The money was not theirs, it was ours, and yes, he did give it to them.