Trump - Russian connections....FAR DEEPER than anyone ever imagined

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

When it's all said and done, I don't expect any Trump supporters to ever accept any kind of truth. They are after all denialists.

No, I look to U.S. Intelligence assessment and the efforts of investigative journalists from respected news sources. (not Brietbart, InfoWars, and other b.s. fake news sites).

Trump is done.

There is no evidence of any Trump Russian connection. This is worse than birtherism. Trump only questioned Obama's citizenship. He never declared Obama was a Kenyan. Some of the Democrats are openly declaring Trump is illegitimate. That is what is unacceptable.

originally posted by: jsfour
There is no evidence of any Trump Russian connection. This is worse than birtherism. Trump only questioned Obama's citizenship. He never declared Obama was a Kenyan. Some of the Democrats are openly declaring Trump is illegitimate. That is what is unacceptable.

Is it though?

What if Putin was working for the American CIA, wouldn't his people want to know if that were true?

Things to think about )))

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Logarock

The part where it was a retired British intel guy only makes it more dubious. ...

Well, that's not what people who have known him for 20 years say...

Ex-spy who wrote intel memos is a pro
cnn

Nick Dowling is a former director on the National Security Council staff during the Clinton administration and is president of IDS International, a government services firm with business in research, training, expeditionary services and cybersecurity. David Handley is a former senior British government official and expert on intelligence and national security. He is an appointed member of the Most Distinguished Order of St. Michael and St. George. Handley was a colleague of Chris Steele's in service with the British government and has known him for more than 20 years. The opinions expressed in this commentary are those of the authors.

Retired British intelligence officer Chris Steele, whose dossier takes to a new level the investigation of whether Russia attempted to influence the US election for the benefit of Donald Trump, learned his spycraft from the best.

Having known Chris Steele professionally for more than 20 years, we know that one should not question his integrity, excellence and diligence in intelligence work. He knows Russia exceptionally well and has relationships and experience in the country to support this type of analysis. For obvious reasons we assume that he cannot name his sources, but we do not doubt that he will have brought the same professional rigor to this study as he did to his work in the intelligence service.

originally posted by: jsfour
There is no evidence of any Trump Russian connection. This is worse than birtherism.

Worse because the Trump/Russian connection has evidence to support it? Worse because intelligence agencies have confirmed Russia meddled and we already know Trump called on Russia to hack and release Hillary's emails?

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Trump was making a joke. Hillary's emails were NEVER EVER released. EVER. So the point is moot.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

When it's all said and done, I don't expect any Trump supporters to ever accept any kind of truth. They are after all denialists.

No, I look to U.S. Intelligence assessment and the efforts of investigative journalists from respected news sources. (not Brietbart, InfoWars, and other b.s. fake news sites).

Of course. Conspiracy theorists are never right and they have a flawed perception of the world. Brietbart? Lolololol. No intelligent human being believes a word of that sht. You know when things are heating up like this Trump is in big time trouble. Notice how Clinton is mia? She's known all along and it's exactly why she thought she would float through the election. She didn't expect the Comey debacle. He's done too.

You know who's onto Trump? Bernstein. Same guy who helped take down the traitor Nixon. Earth to alt righters: credibility, experience, and reality matter. Those are all things that the alt right conspiracy theorist lacks. Oh and a professional job where they have to communicate with other human beings. You'll never find a conspiracy theorist alt righter in a real job for very long. They either get fired or indicted for fraud.

Trump is done. More scandals before he's gotten into office than Obama had in 8 years as president. Lowest approval ratings ever. Everyone avoids him.

Amazingly, his supporters do him the greatest disservice too. They're disgusting and no one wants to join their dumb, immature little hate movement. It's over.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: jsfour
There is no evidence of any Trump Russian connection. This is worse than birtherism.

Worse because the Trump/Russian connection has evidence to support it? Worse because intelligence agencies have confirmed Russia meddled and we already know Trump called on Russia to hack and release Hillary's emails?

They think they're not one of the peasants. They are. So sorry the CIA director doesn't divulge all the details of a top secret investigations to the pissants. Idiots. More is on the way.

You know, at some point the bandwagon ends. It's OK to hop off just as quickly as you hopped on.

Lots of people piled onto the Seahawks and now have abandoned them when they stopped winning.

It's OK to dump Trump now that he's been exposed as a Russian agent, working for a foreign power who doesn't have America's best interests at heart.

No one will probably say anything if you quietly change your mind.

Your identity doesn't depend on your fanatical belief in this man. You are more than just a Trump supporter. You were someone before Trump came along, and you will continue to be an individual within a community of peers after dumping Trump, too.

Look, we all make mistakes and occasionally hitch ourselves to the wrong star. It happens. Trump has fooled a lot of people.

Don't go down burning with the ship. There's still time to get off.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

So then he was still an active agent to be able to extract Russia's top secret information?

No?

How is it he would be in line for such, yet active agencies / agents were not?

Could it be he's just some paid punk hatchetman???? NAH!!! No Way!!

originally posted by: jsfour
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Trump was making a joke. Hillary's emails were NEVER EVER released. EVER. So the point is moot.

The U.S. State Department has released most of them.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Time will tell...

Mr Steele is understood to have worked as an expert on Russia for 20 years during his time at MI6, and was sent to Moscow as a spy in 1990.

After leaving MI6, Mr Steele founded Orbis Business Intelligence Ltd with his business partner Christopher Burrows in 2009.
The company’s website says that it was “founded by former British intelligence professionals”. Based in Grosvenor Gardens, near Victoria railway station, Orbis says it has a “sophisticated investigative capability” and mounts “intelligence-gathering operations and conduct complex, often cross-border investigations”.

link: www.telegraph.co.uk...

And this is an interesting note:
www.dailymail.co.uk...

When Trump won the election in November and the Democrats accepted defeat Steele is said to have continued digging without pay after becoming so worried about alleged ties between Trump and the Kremlin, a security source told The Independent.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: muse7
The MI6 fool was tricked and given false information.

Proof it's false or STFU? Thanks!

In the meantime...

Oh wow so we are being asked to take credible even if not accurate......over accurate but not credible.

I suppose if gay love vid were in question it would be on points for Don not giving male aid a reach around or something? I mean golden showers is like the number one default go to sex smear for the rich and famous who get out of line. Never mind that many news talking heads are doing the news in front of millions of americans with their same sex partners *&^%$% still on their breath.

The dossier is third party rumor, gossip and internet info back filled to fit the events after they happened. As for pissgate here is the author
mobile.twitter.com...
It's unsubstantiated, unverified from anon and paid informants.
Johnny English could do better.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
Pretty flakey triggered snowflake news.
NSA sees all, and has all . This is all fake news.
You believe because you have itching ears, and a sad broken heart.
We will let you get over it...... LMAO
You can believe what you want to believe,
But you don't have to live like a refugee.

Im so sorry for you. I know you are sad. But understand this. Its over. Hillary lost Trump won. Yes President Trump will be your President. And he will do you good. He is not a globalist. Use a little discernment, and you will be ok

This is literally like you've copied and pasted clichés from the little book of republican memes. Desperate attempt at trolling. Sad!

I don't care, because here is the bottom line, either America deepens and strengthens it's ties with Russia, or China will.
I would much rather see a Russia alliance to combat China growing influence, if in a years time you have both Russia and America condemning China's island building in international waters and they BOTH recognize Taiwan as an Independent state then that will keep them at bay. This isn't the 60's anymore.
Russia can be a natural ally just like they were during WW2, China is the threat now, and they need to be contained.
And I can tell you from being on Reddit there is a lot of pro-Russian Trump supporters now, more political capital exists to do a great deal with Russia than ever before.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: ColdWisdom

He may not even realize how corrupt it is. He may think this is just how it works. It's not like he knows what the rules actually are.

He was smart enough to know Clinton had broken a bunch of them, despite millions of lemmings continuing to support the obvious unindicted felon. She broke numerous federal laws with the email scheme. I'd say Trump understands the rules about federal corruption pretty well. But I know some of you are still maintaining the illusion that she did nothing wrong. And that's all it is. Anyone who has worked with classified before knows she committed a bunch of felonies and if one of us little people had done it we'd be in prison.

Keep grasping. I actually feel sorry for you guys at this point.

We finally have proof to what we've been saying all along, that Trump is in bed with the Russians...

And you all still deny it..

Why?

Because you don't want to own up to the fact that all you conservative.. yippie Kay yae "Mericuh!" people voted the enemy into office.

Not only that, but now.. the conservatives.. who ARE "The War Machine" are saying.. "we do the want war with Russia, we want to be allies.. thays what the liberals want.. to feed the American industrial military complex"

Am I in the Twilight Zone?!?! Have you all lost grips with reality?!?

Conservatives and Republicans are the NRA, gun sporting, military backing, social program cutting, go overseas and blow stuff up, "Trump will make America Strong Again!," Abortion and LGBT hating, systemic rasicm supporting, remove federal funding for education, small government wanting people!

You all are just Salty you have been duped!

The truth is.. Trump is lifting sanctions.. and getting friendly with Putin.. so Putin can go reclaim the eastern bloc without any international repercussions.

The motto of the US special forces is "DE opresso liber" or.. liberate the oppressed!

By supporting peace with Putin you are supporting him marching into other countries and stealing their independence, and Idensity. You are supporting oppression.

How are so many of you blind to this? It's right in front of your face!


Hillary WAS the lesser of the 2 evils... and we chose the greater evil.. and now people near and far will suffer from it.


In addition to that.. I saw someone say "Trump is not a globalist" as if that's a good thing...

Globalism us the future, with technology and communication gaps being closed, Globalism is here to stay, adapt or become irrelevant

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