Trump - Russian connections....FAR DEEPER than anyone ever imagined

originally posted by: mOjOm

Putin isn't a wonderful leader who is good to his people.

You must still be upset about him not letting gay rights activists pass out literature at the Olympics.

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: mOjOm

Putin isn't a wonderful leader who is good to his people.

You must still be upset about him not letting gay rights activists pass out literature at the Olympics.

It goes far more beyond that...but, yeah, I guess you thought it was just groovy?

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: muse7

The FBI and CIA have had the dossier since before the election. The dossier has been in existence since last summer.

Again, if the CIA or FBI or any other alphabet agency had legitimate evidence to suggest collusion between the Kremlin & the Trump campaign, why didn't they release it during the primary season? Why not release it when Trump was named the nominee?

Because in the United States of America the intelligence agencies are not allowed to dabble in politics, as Comey did. The Clinton campaign had the "dossier," but didn't think it wise to deploy it. They were correct. Everything in the OP was common knowledge, yet Trump relied on his supporters not being well informed. He boasted that he could stand on a street corner and shoot people and his supporters wouldn't care. He was right.

Hoax bin.

Thank you for not using the phrase "Fake News."

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: muse7

Why is all of this coming out now? Why wait until post November 8th?

It could only be for one reason, methinks. And that is to delegitimatize Trump's presidency.

The FBI and CIA have had the dossier since before the election. The dossier has been in existence since last summer.

And in all that time, you would think the FBI, CIA, NSA, White House, hell, anybody in government, would have looked into this a bit, but no, they all just waited for you to put this into an easy to read thread. Thank God you were here.

Apparently it isn't just the CIA and other 3 letters investigating Donald. Some of our allies are also concerned.



www.rawstory.com...

Even if those connections were true wouldn't that mean Trump brokered a deal where Russian sanctions are dropped, Qatar owns stake in oil company and they (Qatar) will invest 19 billion in American infrastructures?

Or did I read that wrong? If correct, wow 19 billion rebuilding roads and bridges sounds terrific.

Maybe he'll be an awesome negotiator after all.

a reply to: network dude

Would you prefer that the CIA and NSA dabble in the political process?

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: network dude

Would you prefer that the CIA and NSA dabble in the political process?

If it involves a presidential candidate being a spy or something of that nature, I think perhaps so.

But since there wasn't any connection with all the investigation the FBI did before the election, and they had this document since last summer, it's really, really safe to say there ins't anything to it.

I'd prefer the IC be non partisan and 100 factual and sure of what the report. 99% then finding out you were wrong doesn't lend to good credibility.

originally posted by: olaru12
Apparently it isn't just the CIA and other 3 letters investigating Donald. Some of our allies are also concerned.



www.rawstory.com...

deluxe !!

according to Israeli intelligence officers who spoke to BuzzFeed

why did they wait so long to let loose with this info??

maybe the powers that be find that having a russian stooge elected president fits into the plans? like gee... now they have reason to step in and take control of the election process from the states while both parties' integrity is obliterated.
first the dems, which russia seems to have a done a great job of while they propped up trump, then the republicans, since they are all backed behind what appears to be a russian stooge willing to defend him at all costs.

just a theory..

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: muse7

The FBI and CIA have had the dossier since before the election. The dossier has been in existence since last summer.

Again, if the CIA or FBI or any other alphabet agency had legitimate evidence to suggest collusion between the Kremlin & the Trump campaign, why didn't they release it during the primary season? Why not release it when Trump was named the nominee?

Hoax bin.

I see nothing but speculation and no evidence at all linking Trump to anything. Now, I don't think it is bad to speculate, after all the right speculated all the time about Obama and Hillary.

It is amusing to see the complete reversal in the mindsets of the left and right, though. It should make it crystal clear to all that the veracity of information and the approach to presenting it, as well as the willingness to accept it has nothing to do with the information/evidence/data itself and ALL to do with political ideology.

originally posted by: dawnstar
why did they wait so long to let loose with this info??

maybe the powers that be find that having a russian stooge elected president fits into the plans? like gee... now they have reason to step in and take control of the election process from the states while both parties' integrity is obliterated.
first the dems, which russia seems to have a done a great job of while they propped up trump, then the republicans, since they are all backed behind what appears to be a russian stooge willing to defend him at all costs.

just a theory..

If that's the case, then making claims he paid hookers to piss on a bed might not have been the best "bombshell" to release.

a reply to: UKTruth

In other words: "We may never know the truth."

a reply to: mOjOm

Aren't you guys still the ones talking about pizzagate and people close to Hillary dying?

This may be hoax bin stuff but you defenders have double standards.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth

In other words: "We may never know the truth."

In other words, the left have now embraced conspiracy theories, having taken a position of demanding evidence (often enough to convict in a court) when it came to Obama or Clinton... Funny how times change. Now the right demands evidence. I think it is fairly obvious what the underlying motivations are.

"We may never know the truth" is a factual statement and useless in any debate/discussion. We may also find out the truth on a number of issues.

a reply to: network dude

a republican attempt to discredit the whole story...

or a test to determine just how far out into the twilight zone americans are willing to go??

originally posted by: Kettu
If none of this was true, Trump would have no problem releasing his taxes and being open and honest.

If you were accused of cheating by your wife or girlfriend, and you weren't -- what would you do?

"No hon, I'm not cheating. Here, take a look at my phone. I've never texted her or called her. Check my laptop, too."

If anything, at every step of the way Trump has done nothing but make himself look even more suspicious and guilty of cheating on America with Russia.

Do we really want a man to lead our military who's being blackmailed and controlled by a foreign power?

Still on the tax returns, heh?
Your analogy reveals a somewhat sad outlook on life. If you are accused by your wife of cheating and you have not, then the course of action is to deny it and tell her to trust you or not. If you have to show her your phone and laptop, your marriage is over.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: muse7

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: muse7

Why is all of this coming out now? Why wait until post November 8th?

It could only be for one reason, methinks. And that is to delegitimatize Trump's presidency.

The FBI and CIA have had the dossier since before the election. The dossier has been in existence since last summer.

And in all that time, you would think the FBI, CIA, NSA, White House, hell, anybody in government, would have looked into this a bit, but no, they all just waited for you to put this into an easy to read thread. Thank God you were here.

Comey, the boss of the FBI has been holding onto it. Based upon his actions against Hillary at the end of the election, it makes sense that he would suppress things that could damage Trump, he wanted Trump to win.

a reply to: UKTruth

But the left have always embraced right wing conspiracy theories and vice versa. This time, it's not just the left, it's the intelligence community. I realize you are enjoying gloating, but it is not a laughing matter.