Trump - Russian connections....FAR DEEPER than anyone ever imagined

originally posted by: Irishhaf
It is kind of sad/funny... that some people on this site that 2 years ago would have questioned everything that came out of a NATO/FBI/CIA spokesman's mouth.. are now ready to swear they are a beacon of truth...

what an upside down time we are living in.

Kind of like all those Goldman Sachs executives Trump has appointed would have been labeled as globalists are now labeled successful business men?

a reply to: Wardaddy454

Ive been up about 3 days now...

I am happy I can remember to dress myself at this point.

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More on topic... I dont doubt that there are connections between trump and russia, you dont have a piece of that many pies without making contacts...

But the idea that Putin will try to leverage anything is ludicrous... I will list a few reasons why off the top of my head.

1: Russia needs to be friendly with us.. why a strengthening and more belligerent neighbor in the far east... a country they have not had the best of relationships with.

2: If he can make nice with us, odds are high the European sanctions will go away.

3: Trump will now be able to turn the full force of our intelligence agencies against Russia... you dont get as rich as Putin has and maintained power for as long as he has without a few mass graves... our people find that and drop it in the news and he has civil disorder.

So again the odds are high that even if they have something on trump... nothing will be done with it; actual good relationships benefit everyone.

a reply to: muse7

I dont care... seriously I dont..

IF he can get the economy off of this garbage part time service industry standard... he can put Manson on his cabinet.

Also I didnt vote for the guy... Both options sucked, now he is going to be the president so I am hoping for the best.

And like was just mentioned... Pence is pretty much everything Trump is accused of being...

So the left should be very careful of what they wish for.

they offered shares to trump right..so how are these deals with an unrelated anglo-swiss corporation connected to trump? and what does juliani's lawyer who has said corporation as a client have to do with trump? because trump is from New York? what else?
and from what i know saudi arabia invested in clinton too so what is the point?


from what i see trump was supposedly offered shares but besides that nothing else is even connected to trump, the only connection is the fact that trump has his name in the same documents...

OP please make sense or at least elaborate more.

originally posted by: muse7

The FBI and CIA have had the dossier since before the election. The dossier has been in existence since last summer.

To be honest I think the FBI and CIA have about as much credibility left as CNN.

I don't trust a damn thing they say as they've had their hands in way too many shady "incidents" since their inceptions.

Need a third world banana republic's leader taken out? Look no further since they've both got quite the resume for the job.

What's to stop them from trying the same on Trump by spreading some more fake news?

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: muse7

Why is all of this coming out now? Why wait until post November 8th?

It could only be for one reason, methinks. And that is to delegitimatize Trump's presidency.

Well, you guys are simply too keen on defending Trump that the majority of you have let your rational brains go to sleep.

Comey did a good job snipping Clinton, but he had this stuff and sat on if probably because he A: hated Hilary B: is a Republican or C: wanted Trump to win or D: a little of all. That would explain why it was not released and Hilary's Email were brought up again for the what, 11th time?

Trump just said he believes Russia has been fooking around, and Russia says they have been in direct communications with Trump campaign since the summer.

Trump is surrounding himself with an inner circle that has been photographed an awful lot with Putin.

Trumps son said they have considerable dealing with the Russians

the idea that this delegitimizes Trump is not a very weighty consequence and it sounds like a whole lot of trouble for such
a weak outcome.

I am a liberal snowflake who know many liberals and we are not talking about blocking Trump from being installed.

There is so much smoke, beyond the MSM and the media, I think there is a fire. You just have to be motivated and open minded, and you guys are decidedly not open minded.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: muse7

I dont care... seriously I dont..

IF he can get the economy off of this garbage part time service industry standard... he can put Manson on his cabinet.

Also I didnt vote for the guy... Both options sucked, now he is going to be the president so I am hoping for the best.

And like was just mentioned... Pence is pretty much everything Trump is accused of being...

So the left should be very careful of what they wish for.

So the ends justify the means huh? Thats very "progressive" thinking of you.....

I guess im one of the few conservatives left that believes you dont compromise your principles for the end result....

When you make "deals with the devil" to get what you want, he always comes to collect

a reply to: muse7
I bet it is like the September Dossier, which may have been inspired by the Nicholas Cage movie The Rock, or in other words, a load of nonsense used to persuade the idiots.

"Vouched for by Intelligence Communities from NATO".

Okay, now do you have a reliable source?

Trump wins......

America gets free stuff.

This sounds more to me like a merger than a takeover. Russia is desperately trying to get in good with the USA in order to fend off China alright.

Remember the old WW2 philosophy - the enemy of my enemy is my potential friend.

a reply to: ColdWisdom

Isn't it obvious? Comey was looking for a trump win.

If none of this was true, Trump would have no problem releasing his taxes and being open and honest.

If you were accused of cheating by your wife or girlfriend, and you weren't -- what would you do?

"No hon, I'm not cheating. Here, take a look at my phone. I've never texted her or called her. Check my laptop, too."

If anything, at every step of the way Trump has done nothing but make himself look even more suspicious and guilty of cheating on America with Russia.

Do we really want a man to lead our military who's being blackmailed and controlled by a foreign power?

a reply to: Nucleardoom

A nation of "BUNDY" incidents come to mind as THAT would mean an type of endgame we won't let happen.
Obama learned that.

I was skeptical at first but these Russian connections do run FAR deeper than previously thought.


It was just confirmed that the casinos Trump owned had bars that served Vodka - RUSSIAN VODKA!

The restaurants served salads with RUSSIAN DRESSING as an option!

The casinos also had roulette tables. Ever hear of RUSSIAN ROULETTE?

The evidence is overwhelming.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Oh no the sky is falling...

He is not and never was a conservative, I do not understand why you are trying to graft your beliefs onto a narcissist...that for the better part of his life was a democrat.

What I want is a fricking president who delivers...

Oh and I didnt fricking vote for the guy so I have compromised nothing, I voted my conscience and I did not cast a vote for either main stream candidate.

But he is going to be our president, and since we are stuck with him I want him to do something to assist the dying middle class... among other things... And no I do not care who he appoints to do so... as long as they do so!

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: pheonix358

Outlandish statements??? What's so outlandish about them exactly???

For a long time Trump has been trying to build in Russia. He's been quoted and been very outspoken about how much he admires Putin and what a great job he thinks Putin has done over there. His daughter pals around with Putin's Girlfriend. Trump knows the oligarchs in Russia from his real estate deals that he's tried to make there. This is all public knowledge that is easy to find.

Then there are guys like Manafort who was around at the start of his run for Pres. Read up on his past!!! You might be surprised. But that isn't all. Trump was also involved with at least one Russian Mob guy for a while in his past as well. Just look into it, you'll find it, trust me.

This is all just circumstantial stuff though. Nothing that I know of where Trump is doing anything wrong that I know of but he's very connected to Russia in many ways. He has a good reputation there as far as business dealings with certain people. A lot of them aren't always good people either. Some of them are very shady.

Question: Have you taken a moment to consider that Trump, who is a multi-billionaire, has business dealings around the globe? I would bet that if you looked you would find connections to every major country in the world(and most of the others). So what does the fact that he has business dealings with Russia have to do with whether or not he has Americas best interest at heart? Find something that shows that he is colluding against America and I will get upset.

GOOD,,,,we don't need a war like we would have if Hitliry had made it.

originally posted by: Mousygretchen
a reply to: muse7


that's too complicated for me to understand

And the problem is your vote weighs as much as mine does (someone who DOES understand).

Trump won ! get over it, he WILL BE PRESIDENT ,,,,nothing anyone can do,,,no Russian fake news connections,,,game over!