Trump - Russian connections....FAR DEEPER than anyone ever imagined

a reply to: super4warrior

NON-ZERO
Everybody wins.

a reply to: super4warrior

Still letting the clock run out.

a reply to: network dude

What?

When was it revealed it was in a folder marked disinformation?

Comey said he gave trump a two page synopses of the dossier on the day of the briefing. He called for Trump to stopping lying about it.

Now I may have missed something but I don't recall them saying it was to show trump what fake news is. He already knows. He deals in it.

a reply to: super4warrior

The word “Emolument” is not self-defining—though the Clause, by referring to “any kind whatever,” instructs that it be given a broad construction.

As OLC has concluded, and as the Oxford English Dictionary teaches, the word “emolument” is defined as “profit or gain arising from station, office, or employment: reward, remuneration, salary.”

The word also has an older meaning of “advantage, benefit, comfort.” Around the time of Ratification, “emolument” was often used as a catch-all for many species of improper remuneration; thus, when James Madison criticized Alexander Hamilton, he warned that Hamilton sought to conduct government through “the pageantry of rank, the influence of money and emoluments, and the terror of military force.”44

The Emoluments Clause is thus doubly broad. First it picks out words that, in the 1790s, were understood to encompass any conferral of a benefit or advantage, whether through money, objects, titles, offices, or economically valuable waivers or relaxations of otherwise applicable requirements. And then, over and above the breadth of its categories, it instructs that the Clause reaches any such transaction “of any kind whatever.”

The Emoluments Clause: Its text, meaning, and application to Donald J. Trump

Want to read the clause yourself? Cool...Here you go: the report cited above

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Sorry but you can edit on wiki but it doesn't become a part of the site until it's verified.
Have you ever submitted a change to their data?

a reply to: Sillyolme

meh, i looked into it one time. I'm aware that there are reviewers of posts --- that doesn't mean that I can't go there and toss in some disinfo if I want to. There are LOTS of claims on Wikipedia that say "needs citation."

That's all I'm saying.
I go to Wiki often for sources. But when member says "It's extremely accurate" that is not entirely true. It just depends on who is paying attention. Just like the mods on here.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

A deal is not an emolument. A deal is an exchange, such as a trade deal, or someone mowing a lawn for 40 bucks. If Donald Trump does a deal in Russia to build a hotel in Moscow for 1 billion dollars, that's not an emolument.

Every POTUS does trade deals with foreign states. Deals are not emoluments. Deals are exchanges. The emolument clause is not violated by deals.

Come January 20 he will not only be the president of the Trump organization and an exec producer at NBC, he will also be the president of the United States of America.

He will do many many deals with foreign states, business deals for the Trump organization and trade deals for the United States of America.

If he does good deals, he will get raises on his salaries as the president of the Trump organization and the president of the United States of America.

If he does bad deals, the Trump organization and the United States of America will go bankrupt.

I've followed this entire process very closely for the last few years and if anything it seems apparent that if anyone was out to harm this country it was Obama and his crew. 1st of all the reduction in military strength has been dramatic while all the time we have unregulated borders and then add the amount of Syrian refugees. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that something was going on far beyond Obama being bull headed and failure to listen to his advisers.

Although Trump isn't my first pick, he has done one thing that no one else has been able to breach the log jam in Washington where the little guy has been shut out for a long, long time. My other concern is Russia along with other players on the world stage have been in the hacking business for a long time, why all the concern now? Instead of picking and choosing your battles, why not make a concerted effort to shut down these would be thieves with an iron clad protection system for our most important data?

a reply to: 4hammertime

Come January 20 he will not only be the president of the Trump organization and an exec producer at NBC, he will also be the president of the United States of America.

He will do many many deals with foreign states, business deals for the Trump organization and trade deals for the United States of America.

If he does good deals, he will get raises on his salaries as the president of the Trump organization and the president of the United States of America.

You have pretty much described the Emolument Clause. If he does this, he will not get a presidential raise, he will be impeached.

a reply to: muse7

And HERE...breaking today
FBI, 5 other agencies probe possible covert Kremlin aid to Trump
www.mcclatchydc.com...

FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence, the sources said.

...

Investigators are examining how money may have moved from the Kremlin to covertly help Trump win, the two sources said. One of the allegations involves whether a system for routinely paying thousands of Russian-American pensioners may have been used to pay some email hackers in the United States or to supply money to intermediaries who would then pay the hackers, the two sources said.

The informal, inter-agency working group began to explore possible Russian interference last spring, long before the FBI received information from a former British spy hired to develop politically damaging and unverified research about Trump

The working group is scrutinizing the activities of a few Americans who were affiliated with Trump’s campaign or his business empire and of multiple individuals from Russia and other former Soviet nations who had similar connections

Read more here: www.mcclatchydc.com...=cpy

Note the Russian Pensioneers being used as cover to pay hackers?

And that the team was assembled last spring...long before the Dossier was assembled or released?

This is in keeping with reports that other western intelligence agencies had similar intelligence that was in the Dossier..

Just thought I would point out that parts of the Dossier look to be legit beyond the OP.

Breaking today THE CIA claim is bullsh#t..www.globalresearch.ca...

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Sillyolme

meh, i looked into it one time. I'm aware that there are reviewers of posts --- that doesn't mean that I can't go there and toss in some disinfo if I want to. There are LOTS of claims on Wikipedia that say "needs citation."

That's all I'm saying.
I go to Wiki often for sources. But when member says "It's extremely accurate" that is not entirely true. It just depends on who is paying attention. Just like the mods on here.

Me?...I like to scroll through Wiki-edits...you can see how people try to shape truth. Trump Nominees and Cabinet members are fun...cuz you can see a flurry of editing in the week before they are publicly announced.

I am sure if you were a data/IT/coder type guy you could create software to predict people that were going to be in the political spotlight in advance simply by monitoring the massive uptick in editing that goes on before announcements.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
Breaking today THE CIA claim is bullsh#t..www.globalresearch.ca...

Global Research is a fake news outlet. Utter trash on a regular basis.

a reply to: Indigo5

Really ....why?
www.globalresearch.ca...

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
Breaking today THE CIA claim is bullsh#t..www.globalresearch.ca...

Globalresearch is an anti-"Western" website that can't distinguish between serious analysis and discreditable junk — and so publishes both. It's basically the moonbat equivalent to Infowars or WND.

While some of GlobalResearch's articles discuss legitimate humanitarian concerns, its view of science, economics, and geopolitics is conspiracist — if something goes wrong, the Jews West didit! The site has long been a crank magnet: If you disagree with "Western" sources on 9/11, or HAARP, or vaccines, or H1N1, or climate change, or anything published by the "mainstream" media, then GlobalResearch is guaranteed to have a page you will love.

rationalwiki.org...

But honestly..If you like the flavor of BS, my telling you your are eating it wont make a difference.

I will KEEP it, as the stories are NOT produced there ,just a clearing house ,LIKE POSTING here.
I'm SURE you can endure the pain....
SINCE they are BOTH correct.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
Breaking today THE CIA claim is bullsh#t..www.globalresearch.ca...

Globalresearch is an anti-"Western" website that can't distinguish between serious analysis and discreditable junk — and so publishes both. It's basically the moonbat equivalent to Infowars or WND.

While some of GlobalResearch's articles discuss legitimate humanitarian concerns, its view of science, economics, and geopolitics is conspiracist — if something goes wrong, the Jews West didit! The site has long been a crank magnet: If you disagree with "Western" sources on 9/11, or HAARP, or vaccines, or H1N1, or climate change, or anything published by the "mainstream" media, then GlobalResearch is guaranteed to have a page you will love.

rationalwiki.org...

But honestly..If you like the flavor of BS, my telling you your are eating it wont make a difference.

Knocks some ones source then uses wiki lol they dont accept it as a source in classrooms in highschool and colleges.

What is sad is you addressed the reason why you can use it as a source before you used it as a source to attack someone elses source.