The Horrifying Secret of Our Death and Destruction: The True Political Terror!

a reply to: jayfkntee

Cause and effect.

For example, say I wanted my own Mk ultra lacky.

In order to achieve that I'd need someone predispositioned to certain"effects" from preexisting causations.

Then to make a long story short, I'd # them up even more.

a reply to: jayfkntee

clearer perception with this short post

How could you call this a short post!

originally posted by: jayfkntee
a reply to: TinfoilTP

What if sanity and our highest values for the future of our earth, our children and our humanity controlled culture, rather than some perverted psychopathy? The presumption that sanity lacks function [as your post implies] or that our lowest humanity is our only salvation [as your post implies] is frankly, insane.

Will it feed the billions and provide it with its energy needs? Will it make sacrifices to do so? It will have to because the billions are the children, the humanity. Sanity is either watching them all suffer for your higher values or providing for them at the expense of your values. Welcome to hell.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

would you also have sex with their intestines? what is happening in the dominant culture isn't some sexi MK ultra BS for one lacky. at this point its an entire culture full of created, uglified lackys. people pretending that "psychopath" is just "cold, accurate, emotionless, and HIGH FUNCTION" are completely missing the point of how low functioning psychopathy is.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

you may be the most ignorant person I have seen on here. the very concept that we need psychopathic leadership to "make sacrifices" for humanity is ignorance incarnate. sacrifice for others is not a part of psychopathy. implying that having ideals and full humanity is somehow "causing suffering" because pychopaths do better for the world is insanity as I said. you do not merit further response.

a reply to: jayfkntee

Ding ding, you nailed it. Pretty much this was a beautiful post. Well done. My studies in psychology took me into the realm of narcissism where I discovered seemed to be the common trait that these psychopaths share. Adolf Hitler is a man one must study also because he is right up there with those you mentioned. However, if you look deeper, it also goes hand to hand with the Jesuit crusades and their motto "the ends justifies the means." Exitus acta probat


However, while these people may have some blame. You need to understand, it is the order followers that actually are the main problem. We see this with the BLM movement and the paid protests. But It can apply to anyone, police, soldier, paid trolls, mainstream media etc. In ww2 the brownshirts/Jesuits were the order followers of their time, supporting the psychopath Hitler. Without Order Followers psychopaths have no power.





You May find Mark's work on the subject to be interesting.

originally posted by: jayfkntee
a reply to: TinfoilTP

you may be the most ignorant person I have seen on here. the very concept that we need psychopathic leadership to "make sacrifices" for humanity is ignorance incarnate. sacrifice for others is not a part of psychopathy. implying that having ideals and full humanity is somehow "causing suffering" because pychopaths do better for the world is insanity as I said. you do not merit further response.

So you willingly admit your ideology leads to the untold suffering of the masses. You must be an avid follower of the philosophy that erected the Georgia guidestones, no better than the Princes who put voice to the culling of the human population. Hiding behind a message calling your enemies psychopaths makes you no less of one.

a reply to: jayfkntee

So what should we DO about it?

originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: jayfkntee

clearer perception with this short post

How could you call this a short post!

given the depth and complexity of the subject matter, this post was barely an introduction. you might prefer twitter.

originally posted by: richapau
a reply to: jayfkntee

So what should we DO about it?

There-in, my friend, lies the REAL QUESTION and the TRUE complexity of the matter.

Consider this. In the most recent election the American people were given a choice between electing a sociopathic psychopath [Hillary Clinton] or a narcissistic psychopath [Donald trump]. Theoretically, we would be better off with leadership that was capable of fully functioning as a complete human, instead of dysfunctional, mentally ill leadership. however, we were not offered any sane options. both the democrats and republicans dine at the same elite clubs and essentially follow the same policies handed down from the same lords [financial elites].

if the financial elites [sic] hand us only two low functioning psychopaths from which to chose, and meanwhile have cloned-down the populace into mini-peasant-psychopaths who follow and do not question or challenge the psychopathically dysfunctional status quo, then the situation indeed does boil down to "what can we do?"

at this point I believe there is very little the common warrior [like most of us are] can do to correct and bring into healthy balance the corrupt world of psychotic power brokers and billionaires beset with low function perversion, but buoyed with untold wealth and political power.

for now, the only option seems to be to educate ourselves and others on these subjects by open discussion and debate, put political and people's-media pressure on the entrenched and unaccountable to cease and desist from psychotic behaviors [psychotics HATE being found-out and seen, and fear operating without impunity], train ourselves to survive/resist oppression in its various forms, and build some sort of critical grass-roots mass of humanity that can attempt, as the "people", to bring balance to our cultures and societies in a healthy, fully human way.

As many native American people say, "THE SEVENTH GENERATION". we warriors are not working for ourselves in this lifetime, we are doing everything we can to help create a better world for our children, for our people SEVEN GENERATIONS from now. we are taught to think seven generations ahead for all who will come. we too are the seventh generation, and our ancestors have sacrificed their lives for generations before we came to ensure we have what freedoms and life we have here now. so it will go on forever...

Ahhh, it's clear now. Native American mumbo jumbo with extreme hate for whitey. Same old, same old.

originally posted by: jayfkntee
a reply to: loveguy

the psychopath/sociopath definition and debate is relevant, but straying from the central, valid point -- psychopaths [and sociopaths] "feed" off of suffering, not happy, healthy, caring families and cultures...or even ecologies.

You're right.
Carry on.
Excellent thread btw. Thanks.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Will it feed the billions and provide it with its energy needs? Will it make sacrifices to do so? It will have to because the billions are the children, the humanity. Sanity is either watching them all suffer for your higher values or providing for them at the expense of your values. Welcome to hell.

Sorry to break it to you my friend,
People that work together build monuments to their strength and determination...notice the pyramids? It wasn't the pharaohs that built those monuments, it was if I was told correctly, built by slaves?

Society thinks the carrot on the end of the string is gilded in gold, thinking that gold is the prize...for working together to build monuments to their strength and determination...
The real prize in my selfish viewpoint is the fact that people work together to build those monuments to their strength and determination...every person gets a piece of it as long as it stands.

The point I'm trying to make is the matter that people are capable of working together, we don't need guys on street corners trying to reach in our pockets as we walk past and try to tell us what is good for us...'you need more money kid'.

a reply to: jayfkntee

Thanks for this info. I know that NPD is rife in senior management roles. Today I read that NPD is at the lower end of psychopathic narcissism with Malignant Narcissism at the higher end.

I remembered this article I read in Scientific American last year.

That is the question Oxford University psychologist Kevin Dutton examined for the September/October issue of Scientific American Mind. Dutton, author of The Wisdom of Psychopaths among other books, shows that the eight qualities that define psychopathy in the psychological literature are commonly found in top politicians. And some of them are quite useful.

In his article for Mind, Dutton compared Trump, Clinton and runners-up Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders to 16 historical leaders in terms of their scores on the short revised form of the Psychopathic Personality Inventory (PPI-R)–a standardized assessment of psychopathic traits. The form was completed on behalf of the candidates by a seasoned political reporter and, for the historical figures, by biographers or other scholars.

So Donald Trump's score is just above Hitler and just below Idi Amin according to this.

Of Psychopaths and Presidential Candidates

Thanks for an interesting OP.

Very well thought out and written description of what happens behind the scenes. Even this only touches the surface of what truly lies behind the curtains of main stream society and how complex and deep the insane psychology of these ruling elites truly goes. From secret societies, pedophilia rings, the day to day materialistic consumerism mentality we are all entrenched in. The dumbing down of society from all sectors of life, education, financial system, media, entertainment, religion etc.

The statistically unbalanced global world even with the knowledge and technology we have just are some pure examples of insane these individuals are and how tightly gripped they have the world in their paws.

Psychopathy/Narcissism/sociopaths with high intelligence and immeasurable resources in their hands is a formula for destruction. But anyways, very well thought out post, looking forward for a follow up with even more intricate details and examples if you can.

a reply to: jayfkntee

The concept is not new at all. Many political scientists have been making this point for years. There was a good argument that the Soviet model, for example, only rewarded psychopaths and paranoid killers. Only such a person could rise to the top. Gorbachev, somehow bucked the trend.

I think however you mean to imply that Trump is this sort of person. This is in fact not the case. He is no doubt a bit narcissistic but no psychopath. He has a long track record of compassion and empathy for the downtrodden, which he did not advertise, oddly even during his campaign.

Here are examples of what I'm talking about.
ijr.com...

nvm

Politicians as psychopaths